[Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-06 Thread Eugen Leitl
Before I try OpenVZ I would like to hear comments of people who've ran both VServer and OpenVZ, preferrably on the same hardware, on how both compare. Factors of interest are stability, Debian support, hardware utilization, documentation and community support, security. My planned usage is VSe

Re: [Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-06 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 01:20:13PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > Before I try OpenVZ I would like to hear comments of people > who've ran both VServer and OpenVZ, preferrably on the same > hardware, on how both compare. keep in mind, that I'm somewhat biased here ... (will use Z for OpenVZ and

RE: [Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-06 Thread Ehab Heikal
selling virtuozzo than supporting the free openvz. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herbert Poetzl Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 5:45 PM To: Eugen Leitl Cc: vserver@list.linux-vserver.org Subject: Re: [Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ On Tue, Dec

RE: [Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-06 Thread Alex Lyashkov
> (will use Z for OpenVZ and S for Linux-VServer) > > > Factors of interest are > > - stability, > > Z: the announcement reads "first stable OVZ version" > S: we are at version 2.0.1 (> two years stable releases) > And all this time VServer need a hack for allow bind socket to INADDR_ANY at

Re: [Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-06 Thread Kir Kolyshkin
Let me comment on that as well (ccing our users@ mailing list). Sure I'm biased as well :) Herbert Poetzl wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 01:20:13PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: Factors of interest are - stability, Z: the announcement reads "first stable OVZ version" Although this i

Re: [Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-07 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 06:44:43AM +0200, Alex Lyashkov wrote: > > > (will use Z for OpenVZ and S for Linux-VServer) > > > > > Factors of interest are > > > - stability, > > > > Z: the announcement reads "first stable OVZ version" > > S: we are at version 2.0.1 (> two years stable releases) >

Re: [Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-07 Thread Alex Lyashkov
В Срд, 07.12.2005, в 16:34, Herbert Poetzl пишет: > On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 06:44:43AM +0200, Alex Lyashkov wrote: > > > > > (will use Z for OpenVZ and S for Linux-VServer) > > > > > > > Factors of interest are > > > > - stability, > > > > > > Z: the announcement reads "first stable OVZ versio

Re: [Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-07 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 05:57:31PM +0200, Alex Lyashkov wrote: > ? ???, 07.12.2005, ? 16:34, Herbert Poetzl ?: > > On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 06:44:43AM +0200, Alex Lyashkov wrote: > > > > > > > (will use Z for OpenVZ and S for Linux-VServer) > > > > > > > > > Factors of interest are > > > > > -

Re: [Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-07 Thread Alex Lyashkov
> > > FreeVPS stores pointer to context structure, at kernel object (more > > work, debugging, but much faster access to data, that is needed for > > each context switch). > > hmm, again JFYI, linux-vserver uses both, context references > as well as xid information, wherever the one or the other

Re: [Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-10 Thread Matt Ayres
Eugen Leitl wrote: Before I try OpenVZ I would like to hear comments of people who've ran both VServer and OpenVZ, preferrably on the same hardware, on how both compare. Factors of interest are stability, Debian support, hardware utilization, documentation and community support, security.

Re: [OT][Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-07 Thread Dennis Roos
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 16:57, Alex Lyashkov wrote: > В Срд, 07.12.2005, в 16:34, Herbert Poetzl пишет: > > On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 06:44:43AM +0200, Alex Lyashkov wrote: > > > > (will use Z for OpenVZ and S for Linux-VServer) > > > > > > > > > Factors of interest are > > > > > - stability, >

Re: [Devel] Re: [Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-11 Thread Kirill Korotaev
Eugen Leitl wrote: Before I try OpenVZ I would like to hear comments of people who've ran both VServer and OpenVZ, preferrably on the same hardware, on how both compare. Factors of interest are stability, Debian support, hardware utilization, documentation and community support, security. A

Re: [Devel] Re: [Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-11 Thread Matt Ayres
1) "Fair scheduling" - as far as I can tell the VZ "fair scheduler" does nothing the VServer QoS/Limit system does. If anything, the VZ fair scheduler is not yet O(1) which is a big negative. VServer is built on standard kernel and therefore uses the O(1) scheduler (an absolute must when yo

Re: [Devel] Re: [Vserver] VServer vs OpenVZ

2005-12-11 Thread Matt Ayres
The kernel caches based on inode number. If you modified the caching part of the module then I may be incorrect in my thinking. Take example: # ls -ai /vz/private/1/root/bin/ls 41361462 /vz/private/1/root/bin/ls # ls -ai /vz/template/redhat-as3-minimal/coreutils-4.5.3-26/bin/ls 1998864 /vz/tem