Hi Rod (and others) Just had another thought with this too (trigged by talking to a client last night),…. And this "may" be of interest to others as well.
If looking at the Telstra network, you can also look at some of the other providers that still sell Telstra network, but a bit cheaper on plans. I've had a few clients use this and find them pretty good. And again, not being on contact you can always jump back. (but if you're buying the phone on plan,…may pay to check it first before "committing" to a new phone outright). One other thing,..they generally use the 3G network for data not the 4G network, so browsing can be "a little slower"…(of course this can all be dependant on waiting for things anyway,..lol. a few seconds more for people is worth it for a cheaper cost). So just thought I'd throw this in to the mix as well,….as an after thought…..lol https://www.aldimobile.com.au http://www.boost.com.au/rates.aspx http://www.cmobile.com.au (Blue plans are Telstra, Red plans are Vodaphone). I haven't used any of them, so can't really comment on their service etc, and I'm still happy to stick with Telstra,…had forgotten about these others actually,…but thought might post it anyway. Enjoy! Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 6 --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 21/09/2014, at 8:01 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: > Hi Daniel > Don't ever apologise for "rambling" as you always share valuable knowledge. > Thanks for that. > I have done some sums too and in my scenario, unless I have missed something, > the numbers work differently. > A few provisos: > I must stay with Telstra because of their coverage (particularly noticeable > when out of the city on camping trips). > I have very low data and call requirements. > I don't have a problem sticking with one phone for 2 years. > > So: > > Phone with Plan:Telstra 64GB iPhone 6 on Small plan $550 calls 1GB data > Minimum total cost is $1968 over 24 months. > Purchase Own Phone: Telstra BYOM plan $550 calls 500mb data $45/month, $1080 > in 24 months PLUS cost of Phone $999 = $2079 > > Cheers > > Rod > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > wamug@wamug.org.au > > To: > <wamug@wamug.org.au> > Cc: > > Sent: > Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:19:17 +0800 > Subject: > Re: iPhone 6, Telstra plan breakdown thinking and my ramblings,….. > > > Hi Rod > > Apologies for the long post,…but hopefully it all follows and you can get the > info from it,…..(I have a habit now of not re-reading a post,…just sending > it,…lol). > (I changed the subject line slightly as well). > > Not necessarily….it's kind of a yes and no and maybe answer I'm afraid. And > every person/plan is different. > But I'll give you my take on my plan and situation,……seeing as it relates to > me. > > A few years back when I bought iPhones (4s) for myself and Ronni we did some > calculations. (well we spoke on length about it) and we worked out the best > plans for both of us. > I went with a $79 BYOM plan (bring your own mobile). The reason being it was > cheaper per month by about $20-$30 and at that time only on a 12month > contract versus the 24 month contract. > So for that plan I got $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB data. (I went with > Telstra due to the Vodafone mess they had at the time and the better Telstra > coverage I needed for moving around Perth area and hills a lot,..as well as > down South etc) > The current plan at the time where they gave you a "free" phone was about $99 > or $109 for the same value. > So when I looked at it, it was about $240-360 cheaper per year to buy the > phone outright and then sign up for a BYOM plan. (and obviously double that > if I looked at being "locked in" to a 2 year contract plan. So over two years > that figure goes to $480-$720 dearer. I then also factored in selling off one > phone model as well. > > That was about 3 years ago now I'd say. > So jump forward to now,…. > > If I relook at the plan I'm on now ($79/month) which still has the same $1200 > worth of calls and 2.5GB of data. (on average I can spend between $950-$1150 > worth of calls per month). > To get a "similar" plan now > http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/iphone-6/index.htm?switch=Features > The medium plan I either have to take less data or less amount of calls > depending on which "extra" I choose,..so although its $86/per month it's not > as good. > So I look at the Large plan which will give me either more data then I have > now but less calls,…(which I could just "squeeze" in.) or more call value and > the same amount of data. (which would be my safer bet). This plan is $95. > Which is $16 per month more and I'm locked into a 24month contract. And with > that I get a "free" 64GB iPhone 6. > (For ease of calculation I just look at it at $20/per month more). But for > exact calculation,..it's $192 per year dearer. Factor that in being locked > into a 2 year contract to "compare",…then it's $384 dearer over those two > years. > > I then work out that roughly I can get $350-$400 for my wife's iPhone 4s > 64GB. So take the lower figure. (She then gets my iPhone 5 32GB). > > So I take those two figures together,…$384 :saving" and $350 selling the > older phone. This makes a total of $734. > To buy outright the iPhone 6 64GB is $999. > So if I then look over the 2 year period again, it's "really" cost me about > $265. (yes, I have to buy it at full price upfront,..and hope that I sell the > older iPhone. And then wait for the full 2 years to get the "savings"). > Anything falls over with these "conditions" then can throw a spanner in the > works/calculation. > > (plus, depending on jobs, some businesses will let you write off a portion of > your phone purchase as a business expensive…the higher percentage depending > on how much you use it for "work".). > > Obviously there are a few factors that can poke holes in all this. Not > limited to,…if you upgrade again after 12 months, the calculations are all > thrown out. Given I skipped over the 5s and am going from 5 to 6,…I assume > that I'll go to the iPhone 7 (unless there's some massive huge "wow" factor > for the iPhone 6s) ("s" being for Sapphire screen)….lol,..I don't know,..I'm > guessing. (not that I've ever broken a screen on any iPhone,..touch wood). > Another factor is if Telstra come along and say "I'm sorry we're > discontinuing that plan as it's an old plan and we no longer support it,…so > you must upgrade to our new "fantastic super beneficial much better" plans. > "(note the sarcasm and sales technique,….lol). > Or some other factors. > > So hopefully that answers your plan, and calculations. > For where I buy. At this stage i keep trying the reservation service for the > Apple shops. (preferably Garden City). But if anyone else lets me buy it > outright,..then I'll go there. (JBHiFi won't sell outright until about next > week, as they sell on plans first,..as they make more money from them over an > outright purchase customer). Otherwise I was ummmming and arrrring to buy it > online direct from Apple. Either way, it's still full RRP. Shops I can > sometimes use my "retail experience jedi powers "sell it a little cheaper > please" magic,……". (or hey, how about throw in a $20 cover) :o) Either way, I > know they make nothing on it really,….but hey. Always worth a try :)) > > So hopefully that one answers your buying question ;) > > > > Hope all that helps. I'm sure my thinking can probably be picked about in > places,…but hey, for me,…I can make my calculations and thinking work,..so > that's the main thing. As long as I feel ok with it,…then it's a win/win :o)) > > > Again sorry for the long post,…was trying to get all my thinking on to > "paper"……lol :o) > > Enjoy!! > > Kind regards > Daniel > --- > Daniel Kerr > MacWizardry > > Phone: 0414 795 960 > Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> > Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> > > > **For everything Apple** > > NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and > as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. > Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or > accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this > email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the > author be requested. > > On 20/09/2014, at 12:34 PM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: > > Hi Daniel > Are you saying buy outright and then get a Telstra plan? > Which plan? > Who do you buy outright from? > Please are you able to share your calculations? > ta > Blitto > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > wamug@wamug.org.au > > To: > <wamug@wamug.org.au> > Cc: > > Sent: > Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:09:58 +0800 > Subject: > Re: Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+ > > > Yep, we know better eh Ronni,….lol. > The money is better in our pocket then Telstra's,….lol. > Hope you enjoy your iPhone 6+. Too big for me I'm afraid,…but then you and i > work a little differently :o) hehe. And I think I'd be lost if it didn't fit > in my jeans pocket like normal!! lol ;) > (Might be different in 2015 with an iPhone 6s Plus and an AppleWatch :oP > hehe. ;o) > > We can save all the extra money we "save" by not being on plan and save it > for an AppleWatch,…..lol. :o) hehehe. > > Did yours arrive on Friday on time? (or did you miss the date like you > thought you might do,…..)? (or did 6 turn up like you thought you may have > done as well,….lol.hehe). > Did you read about the "hawkers" paying $120 extra for others to buy phones > to take back to China etc. (Apparently were walking around $20,000 cash > passing it around to people to buy them for them,…to resell). Around $2000 > selling back over. (one customs person I read said one guy had over 20 phones > going through to claim back the GST and was holding up the queue for > others,…). > > Enjoy your new iPhone! :o)) > > Kind regards > Daniel > > Sent from my iPhone 5 (soon to be 6) > > --- > Daniel Kerr > MacWizardry > > Phone: 0414 795 960 > Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.comau> > Web: <http://www.macwizardrycom.au> > > > **For everything Apple** > > NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and > as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. > Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or > accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this > email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the > author be requested. > > On 20/09/2014, at 12:03 PM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > > As we discussed awhile back before ordered my iPhone 6 Plus ;-)) > Our Telstra monthly plans (since we have both been out of the Telstra 2 year > contract for some time, is better for both of us! > > It's funny how Telstra fail to understand our analogy.... Of course they > don't because they want "more money from US BOTH & lock us into a two year > plan" > No Way Telstra say Daniel and Ronni :-) > > Cheers, > Ronni > > Sent from Ronni's iPad4 > > > On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:12 am, Daniel Kerr <dan...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote: > > Yes,.I already had Telstra call me to "upgrade" my plan to get a new iPhone 6 > "for free". (and put me back on a 2 year contract). > It took me a while to get them to understand that to get the same features as > I have now, it would cost me $20 extra per month. ($240 per year,..$480 over > the 2 year contract) Then take into account I then give my iPhone 5 to my > wife and sell her iPhone 4s 64Gb for around $350-$400 (seems to be what > they're going for),…that's a "total" of about $830 minimum. (I won't call it > a "saving", as it's not "technically" a saving per say,…lol. Which is pretty > close to the price of an iPhone 6 64GB at $999. So really it pays for itself > mostly over that 2 year period….. > I don't think they could follow my maths, (or perhaps my logic)….lol. I ended > up just saying,..thanks I won't worry about it,..lol. > > Now I just have to actually find an iPhone 6 64GB that is in stock and can be > purchased outright. I was going to pre-order but I ummmmed and arrrrred about > the iPhone 6 versus the iPhone 6 Plus. Now I've read some more reviews and > seen them "live" and in videos, I'm sold on the iPhone 6 standard. It goes > into my pocket a lot better. And I don't think I'll miss the few "extra > features" for me anyway. > > But they do look like quite a nice phone (felt sorry for the Perth guy that > just got it and was showing it to the media and it fell out of his hand as he > was getting it out of the box on the pavement.. It's gone like wildfire > around the world showing him doing it. He's on the Whirlpool "Perth camp out" > forum I've been following. He said his phone is perfect and not marked, so > wasn't an issue, bar a bit red-faced,….lol. Lucky! > > Enjoy! > > Kind regards > Daniel > > Sent from my iPhone 5 (soon to be 6) > > --- > Daniel Kerr > MacWizardry > > Phone: 0414 795 960 > Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> > Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> > > > **For everything Apple** > > NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and > as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. > Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or > accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this > email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the > author be requested. > > On 20/09/2014, at 10:54 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: > > Thanks Susan! > I followed the link after the video and he writes about the camera > comparisons between 5S and 6. > Very interesting!! > And feeding my justification to get a 6 when mu contract expires next month > :) > blitto > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > wamug@wamug.org.au > > To: > "wamug@wamug.org.au List" <wamug@wamug.org.au> > Cc: > > Sent: > Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:11:52 +0800 > Subject: > Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+ > > > This may be of interest. 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