[wtr-general] Re: thinking about automation frameworks/harnesses

2009-04-29 Thread Lisa Crispin
Speaking as someone who is definitely OO-challenged and a barely competent Ruby scripter, I like the simplicity of what Chris did, I can understand it right away. If I were someone just starting out on Watir, it would make sense to me. -- Lisa On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Chris McMahon < chris

[wtr-general] Re: thinking about automation frameworks/harnesses

2009-04-29 Thread Charley Baker
Bret gave a good summary on his most recent blog post: http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog/archives/2009_04.html#000293 Charley Baker blog: http://blog.charleybaker.org/ Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org QA Architect, Gap Inc Direct On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:00 AM, George wrote: > >

[wtr-general] Re: thinking about automation frameworks/harnesses

2009-04-29 Thread Chris McMahon
On Apr 29, 12:47 am, JArkelen wrote: > It wasn't broad criticism, it was just my 2 cents about combining test > data and object data. I don't know what you mean by "object data". Probably a character flaw on my part, but that's why I was hoping for an example of what you meant. And since the

[wtr-general] Re: thinking about automation frameworks/harnesses

2009-04-29 Thread George
Maybe this speaks of my programming ignorance, but what exactly constitutes a "test harness"? I hear this phrase bandied about, but I'm not sure I have a solid grasp of what this actually means. I hope this isn't hijacking the thread, but I would really like a better understanding. I know with

[wtr-general] Re: thinking about automation frameworks/harnesses

2009-04-28 Thread JArkelen
It wasn't broad criticism, it was just my 2 cents about combining test data and object data. Any attempt to develop a framework/directory structure/harness/ whatever should be applauded, because it will make watir more mature and usable in my opinion. Cheers, John On Apr 29, 1:48 am, Chris McMah

[wtr-general] Re: thinking about automation frameworks/harnesses

2009-04-28 Thread Chris McMahon
On Apr 28, 8:56 am, JArkelen wrote: > No, I have my own framework/directory structure for my tests and I'm > perfectly happy with it. It seems hardly sporting to issue such a broad criticism and then leave without an example. :-) I wrote this to illustrate some principles of UI-test design,

[wtr-general] Re: thinking about automation frameworks/harnesses

2009-04-28 Thread JArkelen
No, I have my own framework/directory structure for my tests and I'm perfectly happy with it. On Apr 28, 4:36 pm, Chris McMahon wrote: > On Apr 28, 12:13 am, JArkelen wrote: > > > I can imagine why you want to separate the test data from the test > > script, but mixing it with the object data m

[wtr-general] Re: thinking about automation frameworks/harnesses

2009-04-28 Thread Chris McMahon
On Apr 28, 12:13 am, JArkelen wrote: > I can imagine why you want to separate the test data from the test > script, but mixing it with the object data makes it confusing in my > opinion. > It would be better to separate both the test data and the object data > to start with. Probably so. Want

[wtr-general] Re: thinking about automation frameworks/harnesses

2009-04-27 Thread JArkelen
I can imagine why you want to separate the test data from the test script, but mixing it with the object data makes it confusing in my opinion. It would be better to separate both the test data and the object data to start with. Cheers, John On Apr 28, 2:45 am, Wesley Chen wrote: > That maybe a

[wtr-general] Re: thinking about automation frameworks/harnesses

2009-04-27 Thread Wesley Chen
That maybe a frame, but I think it is not housed well enough. Thanks. Wesley Chen. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Chris wrote: > ate it if you let me know. > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Wat