Re: wayland-protocols scope and governance

2019-03-07 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, Just replying to Drew's mail since it's the most substantive. It seems like things have petered out a fair bit. Having someone write up a strawman CONTRIBUTING doc would be great. I'd love to do that myself, but have been travelling this week (& on holiday for the next few days), so not sure wh

Re: HDR support in Wayland/Weston

2019-03-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 2:35 PM Graeme Gill wrote: > > Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > It sounds like KMS leases could be a pretty good fit for a calibration > > application. It can lease each output individually from the Wayland > > compositor and fully control it using KMS APIs, while the Wayland > >

Re: HDR support in Wayland/Weston

2019-03-07 Thread Graeme Gill
Michel Dänzer wrote: > It sounds like KMS leases could be a pretty good fit for a calibration > application. It can lease each output individually from the Wayland > compositor and fully control it using KMS APIs, while the Wayland > compositor continues running normally on other outputs. There s

Re: HDR support in Wayland/Weston

2019-03-07 Thread Graeme Gill
Michel Dänzer wrote: > Yep. The alternative is that the different mechanisms clobber the > hardware LUT from each other, which sucks from a user POV. Which user though ? It certainly does the opposite of suck if you are a user who wants reliable color management, and so want a simple and direct

Re: [RFC wayland-protocols v2 1/1] Add the color-management protocol

2019-03-07 Thread Graeme Gill
Kai-Uwe wrote: Hi, > Device links are a serialisation of a color transform. lcms supports to > dump color transforms to device links and load a device link into a > color transform. Device link profiles come with little effort. Device > links provide applications a entry to let the compositor do

Re: HDR support in Wayland/Weston

2019-03-07 Thread Graeme Gill
Michel Dänzer wrote: > As of xserver 1.19, if the Xorg driver calls xf86HandleColormaps(), all > relevant mappings (colormap, global gamma, xf86VidMode per-X-screen > ramp, RandR per-CRTC ramp) are composed, and the result is applied to > the hardware LUT for all CRTCs. It's disappointing a chang

Re: HDR support in Wayland/Weston

2019-03-07 Thread Graeme Gill
Chris Murphy wrote: Hi Chris, > Not every desktop environment is using the same Wayland compositor, or > even a Wayland compositor at all. So is drm/kms something you can > depend on most of the time regardless of the desktop? I'm sure you could get even wider coverage of color management tools

Re: [RFC wayland-protocols v2 0/1] Color Management Protocol

2019-03-07 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2019-03-06 at 18:09 +0100, Sebastian Wick wrote: > 2. How exactly should the client be informed of the "prefered" color >spaces? >IMO there are a few requirements: >* the client should know when the prefered color space changes >* the client should know when multiple color

Re: HDR support in Wayland/Weston

2019-03-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 3:15 AM Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On 2019-03-07 8:05 a.m., Chris Murphy wrote: > > Of course. It can take 5-30 minutes to do a calibration and > > characterization. In particular if I have 2, 3 or even 4 displays > > connected I'd want to calibrate them in sequence while the

Re: HDR support in Wayland/Weston

2019-03-07 Thread Michel Dänzer
On 2019-03-07 1:43 p.m., Kai-Uwe wrote: > Am 07.03.19 um 11:15 schrieb Michel Dänzer: >> On 2019-03-07 8:05 a.m., Chris Murphy wrote: >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:02 PM Graeme Gill wrote: [ And why should Linux/Wayland be crippled compared to every other system ? I can and do do thing

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Wayland project uses Gitlab merge requests workflow

2019-03-07 Thread Pekka Paalanen
Hi all, it has been over a week since the proposal, it got 5 acks and no objections, so I went ahead. I have just enabled merge requests on the wayland repository and solved https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland/issues/49 . Just like with Weston, we will continue draining the patches fr

Re: HDR support in Wayland/Weston

2019-03-07 Thread Kai-Uwe
Am 07.03.19 um 11:15 schrieb Michel Dänzer: > On 2019-03-07 8:05 a.m., Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:02 PM Graeme Gill wrote: >>> [ And why should Linux/Wayland be crippled compared to >>> every other system ? I can and do do things like fire up >>> a test patch display usin

Re: EXT: Re: [PATCH wayland v2] contributing: use Gitlab merge request workflow

2019-03-07 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 07:33:01 -0600 Derek Foreman wrote: > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 04:49, Ray, Ian (GE Healthcare) wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 6 Mar 2019, at 11.28, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > > > > > Going once, going twice... > > > > > > Any objections? More acks? > > Acked-by: Derek Foreman

Re: HDR support in Wayland/Weston

2019-03-07 Thread Florian Höch
Am 07.03.2019 um 05:26 schrieb Chris Murphy: > Hmmm. For a while now we've had display calibration+profiling > applications compel full screen mode While some calibration/profiing applications are able to display a fullscreen window for the patch area (some may even default to it), I know none tha

Re: [RFC wayland-protocols v2 0/1] Color Management Protocol

2019-03-07 Thread Erwin Burema
Wed Mar 6 17:09:27 UTC 2019 Sebastian Wick : >... > 2. The whole pipeline should look something like > > [surface cs] -cs conversion-> [output cs] -tone mapping-> [output cs] >-degamma-> [output linear cs] -blending-> [output linear cs] -gamma-> >[output cs]. > >Where some parts can

Re: [RFC wayland-protocols v2 0/1] Color Management Protocol

2019-03-07 Thread Erwin Burema
Thu Mar 7 08:37:11 UTC 2019 Kai-Uwe > Am 06.03.19 um 18:09 schrieb Sebastian Wick: > ... >> Which brings me to open issues: >> >> 1. Does it make sense to support device link profiles? I'm against it >>but would love to hear if anyone has objections given that they are >>supported in the ot

RE: [PATCH] unstable: add HDR Mastering Meta-data Protocol

2019-03-07 Thread Sharma, Shashank
Regards Shashank > -Original Message- > From: Graeme Gill [mailto:grae...@argyllcms.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 7:05 AM > To: Sharma, Shashank ; gra...@argyllcms.com; > Pekka Paalanen ; Nautiyal, Ankit K > > Cc: e.bur...@gmail.com; Kps, Harish Krupo ; > niels_...@salscheider-onli

Re: HDR support in Wayland/Weston

2019-03-07 Thread Michel Dänzer
On 2019-03-07 8:05 a.m., Chris Murphy wrote: > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:02 PM Graeme Gill wrote: >> >> Chris Murphy wrote: >> >>> Hmmm. For a while now we've had display calibration+profiling >>> applications compel full screen mode so they're not really usable >>> alongside anything else. They a

Re: HDR support in Wayland/Weston

2019-03-07 Thread Michel Dänzer
On 2019-03-07 5:38 a.m., Graeme Gill wrote: > Michel Dänzer wrote: >> As of xserver 1.19, if the Xorg driver calls xf86HandleColormaps(), all >> relevant mappings (colormap, global gamma, xf86VidMode per-X-screen >> ramp, RandR per-CRTC ramp) are composed, and the result is applied to >> the hardwa

Re: [PATCH] wayland-util.h: add forward declaration for wl_object

2019-03-07 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 15:54:31 -0500 Chris Billington wrote: > The definition of wl_argument in wayland-util.h references wl_object, > so wl_object ought to be defined in wayland-util.h. This resolves > gitlab issue #78. > --- > src/wayland-util.h | 14 ++ > 1 file changed, 14 insertio

Re: [RFC wayland-protocols v2 0/1] Color Management Protocol

2019-03-07 Thread Philipp Zabel
On Wed, 2019-03-06 at 18:09 +0100, Sebastian Wick wrote: [...] > 4. How do universal planes handle gamma when blending? This hopefully >has a sinmple answer and there probably is some documention which >I just can't find. I think they currently don't, and it will depend on the driver. Ther

Re: [RFC wayland-protocols v2 0/1] Color Management Protocol

2019-03-07 Thread Kai-Uwe
Am 06.03.19 um 18:09 schrieb Sebastian Wick: > Sending in v2 with small fixes only. I'm using this in the hope to focus > the previous discussion in the direction of the actual protocol and > implementation. > > It looks like we have come to at least some consensus on a few points. > If anyone disa

Re: [RFC wayland-protocols v2 1/1] Add the color-management protocol

2019-03-07 Thread Kai-Uwe
Am 07.03.19 um 02:47 schrieb Graeme Gill: > Niels Ole Salscheider wrote: > > Hi, > >> We added the device link profiles for "professional" applications that want >> to >> have full control. > Right, but with the availability of wl_surface.enter/leave events, the > client can keep track of which