Re: Screen dimensions, top level surface positioning...

2017-11-27 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 18:40:13 +0200 Jari Vuomajoki wrote: > Hi Everyone! > > Thank you all for clear answers. I can understand the problematic of > providing parallel solutions for several graphics environments... > > ...so here is the use-case I am puzzled with: > > I

Re: Screen dimensions, top level surface positioning...

2017-11-24 Thread Jari Vuomajoki
Hi Everyone! Thank you all for clear answers. I can understand the problematic of providing parallel solutions for several graphics environments... ...so here is the use-case I am puzzled with: I am implementing a desktop application consisting of several windows. I can create proper

Re: Screen dimensions, top level surface positioning...

2017-11-21 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:07:47 +0800 Jonas Ådahl wrote: > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 03:43:43AM +0200, Jari Vuomajoki wrote: > > Hi Jasper, > > > > Thank you very much for your very clear and comprehensible answer. I > > understand the challenges you are addressing. > > > > I want

Re: Screen dimensions, top level surface positioning...

2017-11-21 Thread Jonas Ådahl
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 03:43:43AM +0200, Jari Vuomajoki wrote: > Hi Jasper, > > Thank you very much for your very clear and comprehensible answer. I > understand the challenges you are addressing. > > I want to build applications that can facilitate the screen layout to the > fullest and still

Re: Screen dimensions, top level surface positioning...

2017-11-21 Thread Jari Vuomajoki
Hi Jasper, Thank you very much for your very clear and comprehensible answer. I understand the challenges you are addressing. I want to build applications that can facilitate the screen layout to the fullest and still collaborate with WM. I don't really get the "fight" between WM and client.

Re: Screen dimensions, top level surface positioning...

2017-11-21 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
Hi, There's a few reasons that Wayland not to report or allow clients to choose absolute screen position. The biggest is that from our experience with X11, it's hard to even *define* such a space. Laptops plug into external monitors and projectors. People with differently sized monitors have

Screen dimensions, top level surface positioning...

2017-11-21 Thread Jari Vuomajoki
Hello! I have been getting to know the Wayland protocol from the client side for only couple of months... So bare with me if my questions sound immature. It took a while to get going, the documentation is there and it is informative enough to build a client. It could be a lot better though or