Jon Haworth [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:




I think Opera 6 is the only one of my browsers that gets it how you want it

- Phoenix shows it fine but doesn't display the picture of the cannon. 

     

    [following up my own post]

        ... probably because I've got JS disabled in it.



[Perry]

This is the second time I've heard of the Phoenix browser. Maybe both times
from you. When did this one come on the scene? Does it have much popularity?
Who makes it?







IE6 makes a complete mess of it - in 800x600 you can't even see the content:

  http://laughing-buddha.net/tmp/wi-ie6-800.gif

In 1280x1024 (my usual resolution) it's only marginally better:

  http://laughing-buddha.net/tmp/wi-ie6-1280.gif



[Perry]

I think I see what's happening, but I don't know why. Seems like IE6 is
adding more left side margin than I called for. The definition and image is
in a DIV floated left, and the links and IFrame are in another DIV floating
against it. Because IE6 is giving too much margin, the right hand DIV is
squeezed out.





One design note: I'm not convinced about the scrolling <div> or whatever it

is that's holding the content... I spent my money on a big monitor so I

could see more information onscreen at once, but that's completely defeated

by a site that keeps everything in a tiny little window (I *knew* I should

have spent it on beer instead ;-)



[Perry]

Nice way of saying "WTF is with this design"?  ;)

Here's the explanation. I've fallen in with a group of D'Zyners in my city
that create some very artistic sites. In my heart I'm an artist and somewhat
of a perfectionist, but I've been gripped by a fascination with high quality
web development as well.  Where I know that the most functional sites will
be fluid in design and cater to the viewers wishes, in the case of the Web
Initiative, I wanted to make a structurally sound site with a little flair.
The design I ultimately decided to go with didn't work as a fluid site due
to the grid pattern and the shadow on many of the graphics. I wanted to have
a random image on the page as well which explains the JavaScript issue you
ran into. I figure if some people want to thwart the functionality of the
web by disabling features, I guess they're just going to miss some things.
If this site were an online store, trying to reach every customer available,
I probably would have designed it very differently.







Incidentally, congratulations on your ICBL entry - when do you find out the

result? 



[Perry]

Oh, I have already discovered I didn't win. Just haven't updated that site
description yet. I thrilled to have come in second place. I never really
thought I'd get that close.





Thanks Jon.



Perry Gerenday

www.klugelab.com

www.webinitiative.net




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