Web pages are made up of block elements like div, hx (x being 1-6 like you
would use on a outline, remember those?), p, tables and lists. Inline
elements like table headers/data cells and span.
Mixed together you get a structured document that should make sense if you
look at it like that outline
Thank you all for a fascinating discussion. I was early aware of the H
value in SEs but hadn't appreciated the structure points.
Poems will mainly appear on their own pages so h1 is going to be right for
the title; class or ID will be needed because I use a distinct heading
style and IE, Opera
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> > I would say that 'tain't that much briefer, and I would still prefer the
use
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> I would say that 'tain't that much briefer, and I would still prefer the use
> of for this purpose, since it accomplishes the objective and requires
> no adjustment or accommodation of the meaning of the heirarchical tags.
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> Call it a personal preference, if you wish, since either approach wil
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OK, perhaps I'm not following this well. Are you saying that instead of
we have
for the headings which are also poemTitles?
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> > OK, perhaps I'm not following this well. Are you saying that ...
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> > for the
Structural meaning stays the same, it is the presentation that changes. all
it adds is usual style.
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OK, perhaps
> OK, perhaps I'm not following this well. Are you saying that ...
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> for the headings which are also poemTitles?
yes, exactamundo
> Also, if the poemTitle is not
> second in importance in the page heirarchy, are we not obviating the
> structural meaning of the heading tag?
well, sorta,
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No you apply the class to the h2 or other toy.
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Umm, wouldn't we be right back at the tag then? ;-)
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Umm, wouldn't we be right back at the tag then? ;-)
Absolutely not! As rudy said, use a class for the h2. Don't
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I've put the page up on
http://www.smilepoetryweekly.com/master%20-%20developing%20-%20css.htm
if you care to have a look you ca
Wow! You all believe in giving Homework.Now I am spoilt for choice.
I'll probably take the first 3-col from p.i.e. that is confidently asserted
to work in almost everything.Though I'm wondering now about putting the
top and tail content in the middle column...
But I have promised to do a
Thanks Cheryl, that is quite some site! I see a very good, time-saving
template that should be perfect. The template idea is something I am only
just getting into.
Am I right that IDs can appear only once on each page?
So any repeats, like top and tail explanatory texts would have to be class
Jospeh:
a three column with a header and footer
Bloody hell! I thought I told you to start off simple! This is a major piece
of CSS work Joseph, but it can be done. Just expect to be pulling your hair
out an awful lot.
Cheryl's right though - http://positioniseverything.net have done some great
Might want to get in the habit of anything that maybe moved to the web use
an _ or - instead of a space. For a 3 column header/footer layout that is
very robust I'd suggest using one of the ones at
http://positioniseverything.net Big John and Holly have pretty much worked
the bugs or at least well
Cheryl,
Yes, very much so. Thank you. When I tried the s it didn't do that!
You see that this is very early, checking that I understand and can put it
all together. The plan is a three column with a header and footer, and I
have just been glancing at HTML dog which offers very clear and eas
Joseph,
Padding/margin won't work when you use position absolute. You need to either
allow for the space you want in your px placement settings or not use
position absolute.
I took a stab at what I think you are trying to do at
http://wizerways.net/joseph could probably do better if I had some cl
t; Buffalo, WV
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> > For special text changes, wrap the poem
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> For special text changes, wrap the poem text in a (or with
> whatever naturally wrap
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> The font tag is deprecated. Ixnay the ontfay agtay.
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> Rather, declare the font specifications in the tag.
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> For sp
My proofreading is getting worse. :-)
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Depends on where and why you are using font. By all means specify the
def
Depends on where and why you are using font. By all means specify the
default in You body definition but Joseph may want a different font for his
poems or even: just a few words in a poem.
For the whole poem the div method works well but for a few words is
the correct method instead of font.
The font tag is deprecated. Ixnay the ontfay agtay.
Rather, declare the font specifications in the tag.
For special text changes, wrap the poem text in a (or with
whatever naturally wraps it in the code) and declare your changes there.
Clear as mud? Thought so.
Will
Professional Graphics
Sorry about the blank message. with Css you can use padding or margin to get
the space you want. Don't use the font tag it is depreciated either use a
class on the p tag or use span if it is inside the paragraph. If you have an
example we can look at it would help, I'm having trouble visualizing
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