Re: [Web-SIG] Re: Just lost another one to Rails

2005-04-29 Thread Jeremy Hylton
On 4/28/05, Greg Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My solution is for Guido (or someone with equivalent authority) to appoint someone Benevolent Dictator for the Web for One Year, with a mandate to put together something that has all the features that are getting Rails so much attention.

Re: [Web-SIG] Re: Just lost another one to Rails

2005-04-29 Thread Todd Grimason
Uh, just to clarify this was me, not mike, I forgot to kill that attribution line! * Todd Grimason [2005-04-29 12:02]: * mike bayer [2005-04-29 11:57]: Just to emerge from lurking for a moment, and without years of working in the python community like you guys, it seems pretty obvious to me

[Web-SIG] Re: Just lost another one to Rails

2005-04-29 Thread Greg Wilson
Hi Jeremy; thanks for your post. Jeremy Hylton wrote: I don't think this is a good idea for several reasons. Let's imagine we could go back in time four years and tell the Ruby community the same thing: Appoint someone to research a popular new way of building web applications and add that to

Re: [Web-SIG] Preferred set of WSGI servers

2005-04-29 Thread Shannon -jj Behrens
The reloading problem is a tough one, and Aquarium went through a lot of iterations before it came to a good solution. Now days, I have a property which tells what types of modules I'm interested in reloading. Then, if any module is stale, I reload all of those modules. This takes care of cases

Re: [Web-SIG] Preferred set of WSGI servers

2005-04-29 Thread Ian Bicking
James Y Knight wrote: On Apr 28, 2005, at 2:02 PM, Ian Bicking wrote: What I want in a WSGI server twisted.web2 supports: HTTP, HTTPS, CGI, and I wrote SCGI yesterday and will commit it this weekend. FastCGI looks like a complicated protocol, so it'll probably be a bit harder than SCGI to

Re: [Web-SIG] Re: Just lost another one to Rails

2005-04-29 Thread Shannon -jj Behrens
At the last Bay Piggies meeting, as well as at PyCon, Guido felt strongly that no Python Web application framework belonged in the Python standard library for these reasons: o The release schedule for such a library doesn't match the release schedule of Python. Imagine having to wait a year

Re: [Web-SIG] Preferred set of WSGI servers

2005-04-29 Thread Steven Armstrong
On 04/29/05 03:38, Mark Rees wrote: On 4/29/05, Ian Bicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the full set of WSGI-enabled servers I'd like to see (and in some way encorporate into Paste, of course): * CGI gateway (done: not sure of canonical location) * Simple threaded HTTP server (done:

Re: [Web-SIG] Re: Just lost another one to Rails

2005-04-29 Thread Robert Leftwich
Shannon -jj Behrens wrote: When I came to IronPort, I had to act as such a benevolent dictator, or rather, a benevolent concensus builder...Note, I'm not trying to force Aquarium on *anybody*. I wrote it because I needed it. I open sourced it because I like sharing. To add to JJ's background on