Re: [Web-SIG] Specification process

2006-11-01 Thread Luke Arno
On 11/1/06, Ian Bicking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Luke Arno wrote: > > On 11/1/06, Ian Bicking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> So, maybe two namespace options: > >> > >> wsgiorg.* > >> websig.* > >> > >> I personally prefer wsgiorg, since we can do this on wsgi.org, and I > >> like what the

Re: [Web-SIG] Specification process

2006-11-01 Thread Ian Bicking
Luke Arno wrote: > On 11/1/06, Ian Bicking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> So, maybe two namespace options: >> >> wsgiorg.* >> websig.* >> >> I personally prefer wsgiorg, since we can do this on wsgi.org, and I >> like what the name implies. > > +1 for wsgiorg as a neutral namespace for building

Re: [Web-SIG] Specification process

2006-11-01 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 04:18 PM 11/1/2006 -0500, Luke Arno wrote: >What additional value comes from lending >"authority" to this convention (url vars)? Bah! ;) Exactly my point. Let a thousand flowers bloom in other namespaces. :) ___ Web-SIG mailing list Web-SIG@python.

Re: [Web-SIG] Specification process

2006-11-01 Thread Luke Arno
On 11/1/06, Ian Bicking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, maybe two namespace options: > > wsgiorg.* > websig.* > > I personally prefer wsgiorg, since we can do this on wsgi.org, and I > like what the name implies. +1 for wsgiorg as a neutral namespace for building compatibility. -1 for process u

Re: [Web-SIG] Specification process

2006-11-01 Thread Ian Bicking
Phillip J. Eby wrote: > Compare for example, with the very successful TurboGears/CherryPy > templating standard. That's working out quite nicely, with no > "official" standardization or authority, under its *own* name. They > didn't see a need to put it under a 'setuptools' namespace, just bec

Re: [Web-SIG] Specification process

2006-11-01 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 12:47 PM 11/1/2006 -0600, Ian Bicking wrote: >Phillip J. Eby wrote: >>At 11:20 AM 11/1/2006 -0600, Ian Bicking wrote: >>>So I've got a couple specs out there that build on WSGI, and hopefully >>>other people will be introducing more. These specs are (or should be) >>>fairly light and optional,

Re: [Web-SIG] wsgi.url_vars feedback

2006-11-01 Thread Ben Bangert
On Nov 1, 2006, at 9:33 AM, Phillip J. Eby wrote: > Yep, that was my reasoning; I think its most valuable use is as > arguments > to a callable, such that a dispatcher or routing system would just > invoke a > callable with some framework-defined arguments, combined with the * > and ** > fro

Re: [Web-SIG] wsgi.url_vars feedback

2006-11-01 Thread Ian Bicking
Robert Brewer wrote: > Ian Bicking wrote: >> One little question: if a dispatcher can never produce >> one of the kinds of information (which happens for some >> of them), should they put in an empty list/tuple or >> empty dict, or should they put in None for that item? >> I'm currently saying they

Re: [Web-SIG] Specification process

2006-11-01 Thread Ian Bicking
Phillip J. Eby wrote: > At 11:20 AM 11/1/2006 -0600, Ian Bicking wrote: >> So I've got a couple specs out there that build on WSGI, and hopefully >> other people will be introducing more. These specs are (or should be) >> fairly light and optional, suggesting useful compatibilities between >> WSGI

[Web-SIG] wsgi.url_vars feedback

2006-11-01 Thread Robert Brewer
Ian Bicking wrote: > One little question: if a dispatcher can never produce > one of the kinds of information (which happens for some > of them), should they put in an empty list/tuple or > empty dict, or should they put in None for that item? > I'm currently saying they must put in a list/tuple or

Re: [Web-SIG] Specification process

2006-11-01 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 11:20 AM 11/1/2006 -0600, Ian Bicking wrote: >So I've got a couple specs out there that build on WSGI, and hopefully >other people will be introducing more. These specs are (or should be) >fairly light and optional, suggesting useful compatibilities between >WSGI components rather than anything

Re: [Web-SIG] wsgi.url_vars feedback

2006-11-01 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 11:10 AM 11/1/2006 -0600, Ian Bicking wrote: >I don't really care that much, somehow url_vars just seemed the most >natural choice and I hardly even thought about it. Of course "URLs" don't >even exist (though I'm still fuzzy on why), so obviously the terminology >is a bit crude. And really

Re: [Web-SIG] wsgi.url_vars feedback

2006-11-01 Thread Luke Arno
On 11/1/06, Ian Bicking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Probably the name I like the most of what you've suggested would be > "wsgi.routing_args", since that makes me think of "things that were > captured on the way here" ("routing" more so than "dispatch"). > Actually, I don't really feel any strong

[Web-SIG] Specification process

2006-11-01 Thread Ian Bicking
So I've got a couple specs out there that build on WSGI, and hopefully other people will be introducing more. These specs are (or should be) fairly light and optional, suggesting useful compatibilities between WSGI components rather than anything that changes WSGI itself. So I don't think we

Re: [Web-SIG] wsgi.url_vars feedback

2006-11-01 Thread Ian Bicking
Phillip J. Eby wrote: > At 05:42 PM 10/31/2006 -0600, Ian Bicking wrote: >> Phillip J. Eby wrote: >>> At 04:17 PM 10/31/2006 -0600, Ian Bicking wrote: Anyway, I've updated the spec: http://wsgi.org/wsgi/Specifications/url_vars http://wsgi.org/wsgi/Specifications/url_vars?action=

Re: [Web-SIG] Proposal: Handling POST forms in WSGI

2006-11-01 Thread Ian Bicking
I've updated this specification in response to input, mostly changing language but not the meat of the specification itself: http://wsgi.org/wsgi/Specifications/handling_post_forms http://wsgi.org/wsgi/Specifications/handling_post_forms?action=diff One thing that occurred to me is that wsgi.inpu

Re: [Web-SIG] wsgi.url_vars feedback

2006-11-01 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 05:42 PM 10/31/2006 -0600, Ian Bicking wrote: >Phillip J. Eby wrote: >>At 04:17 PM 10/31/2006 -0600, Ian Bicking wrote: >>>Anyway, I've updated the spec: >>> >>>http://wsgi.org/wsgi/Specifications/url_vars >>>http://wsgi.org/wsgi/Specifications/url_vars?action=diff >>> >>>Is everyone happy with