On Mar 3, 2007, at 6:19 PM, Robert Brewer wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
For some time, Zope has used a daemon-management tool
we wrote called zdaemon:
http://www.python.org/pypi/zdaemon
Ironically, this sort of tool isn't Python specific at all,
and the discussion highlighted some
On Mar 3, 2007, at 11:27 PM, Chad Whitacre wrote:
...
Now, Jim: it looks like Zope still uses a Unix-y userland for
INSTANCE_HOME, yes?
Yes, but I hate it. At Zope Corporation, We're moving away from it
for a number of reasons.
For development, it adds structure that isn't needed. A Zope
On Mar 3, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Ian Bicking wrote:
Chad Whitacre wrote:
All,
Thanks, Jim and Ian, for bringing this discussion online.
I have two hesitations with Paste Deploy:
1. The configuration syntax is really complex. I'm much more
comfortable with multiple simpler config
On Mar 3, 2007, at 11:18 AM, Chad Whitacre wrote:
Jim,
I'll summarize my recollections of a very useful discussion
that several of us had at PyCon 2007.
Looks accurate to me, thanks.
- Ian will lead a server benchmark effort
Where by server, we mean core HTTP server library, yes?
On 3/5/07, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For production deployments, we (Zope Corporation) install files into
the *real* Unix tree where site administrators want them. We'll
typically have a deployment that includes a number of applications.
The deployment will create directories in
On Mar 5, 2007, at 9:16 AM, Sidnei da Silva wrote:
On 3/5/07, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For production deployments, we (Zope Corporation) install files into
the *real* Unix tree where site administrators want them. We'll
typically have a deployment that includes a number of
On Saturday 03 March 2007 15:54:41 Ian Bicking wrote:
Chad Whitacre wrote:
I suggest that a system with multiple simple config files is much
more scalable than a single complex config file syntax. Imagine
if all of Unix were configured using a single syntax!
There's other cases where
Jim Fulton wrote:
For some time, Zope has used a daemon-management tool
we wrote called zdaemon:
http://www.python.org/pypi/zdaemon
Ironically, this sort of tool isn't Python specific at all,
and the discussion highlighted some non-Python tools, notably
daemontools and runit, neither
On 3/5/07, Jacob Smullyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 02:25:06PM -0300, Sidnei da Silva wrote:
Well, it is something that needs to be considered though. We can't
just close one eye and pretend that win32 does not exist.
Yes, I prefer to close two eyes!
I seriously hope
On 3/5/07, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/5/07, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We don't deploy to win32 and I don't know enough about win32 to
answer. I expect though that, like Unix, a production deployment is
going to look different than a development buildout. In any
Chad Whitacre wrote:
2. I'm not clear on how Paste Deploy's abstractions map to the
filesystem. What does my website root look like?
The way I have generally configured websites like this is like:
[composite:main]
use = egg:Paste#urlmap
/ = config:root.ini
At 09:56 AM 2/9/2007 -0800, Titus Brown wrote:
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 12:10:00PM -0500, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
- Yeah, multiprocess should probably be set false there, and
- multithreadedness should depend on whether the ThreadingTCPServer or
- whatever it's called is mixed in. (HTTPServer does
On Monday 05 March 2007 16:19:14 Ian Bicking wrote:
Joseph Tate wrote:
I find that multiple files gives you a nice way to override defaults. As
long as the files are read in a way that's predictable and documentable,
and ultimately appear as if read from a single file (and possible
On Monday 05 March 2007 16:38:51 Phillip J. Eby wrote:
At 10:02 AM 3/5/2007 -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
Entry points add *a* mechanism to make those objects a bit more
discoverable. Arguably, specifying an application via:
eggname#entrypointname doesn't provide much advantage over simply
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