Re: [Web-SIG] [stdlib-sig] Choosing one of two options for url* in the stdlib reorg

2008-03-01 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 4:34 AM, M.-A. Lemburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-03-01 05:06, Brett Cannon wrote: Seriously, I just don't want to support two different approaches to the same problem. Then what makes you believe that the urllib2 approach is the better one ? Why

Re: [Web-SIG] [stdlib-sig] Choosing one of two options for url* in the stdlib reorg

2008-02-29 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:47 PM, M.-A. Lemburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brett Cannon wrote: On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:52 AM, M.-A. Lemburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-02-29 20:20, Brett Cannon wrote: So, I'd be +1 on the second approach, provided that those two classes

[Web-SIG] Choosing one of two options for url* in the stdlib reorg

2008-02-28 Thread Brett Cannon
[BCC'ing stdlib-sig and web-sig so that both vote but that I don't have to clear a bunch of replies in the stdlib-sig mailing list from people not on both lists =) ] With PyCon approaching and having other stuff on my plate to deal with I want to try to reach a consensus on the whole

Re: [Web-SIG] [stdlib-sig] Choosing one of two options for url* in the stdlib reorg

2008-02-28 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Raymond Hettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm inclined towards the fancy naming option. Ditching the most commonly used module in the standard library doesn't seem like progress to me. The thing that seems to bug people is choosing between urllib and

[Web-SIG] Cookie, cookielib; what to do?

2008-02-28 Thread Brett Cannon
When I brought this up last it was when I first began bombarding this list with stdlib reorganization questions, so there was some noise about the whole process and no clear resolution was reached. The problem is that both modules have a Cookie class, so they can be merged. Much like the url*

Re: [Web-SIG] Dealing with urllib, urllib2, and urlparse

2008-02-22 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Joe Gregorio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Brett Cannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Ian Bicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brett Cannon wrote: which I am liking. But I figured I would ask

Re: [Web-SIG] Are both htmllib and HTMLParser needed?

2008-02-20 Thread Brett Cannon
On Feb 20, 2008 7:43 AM, Fred Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 20, 2008 9:35 AM, Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ISTR that HTMLParser was the preferred one. It is certainly newer, and doesn't carry the baggage of sgmllib which I would discard together with htmllib). Maybe

[Web-SIG] Merge Cookie and cookielib?

2008-02-05 Thread Brett Cannon
Since Bill Janssen prodded me on to this list I might as well take advantage now and bug you all about how to deal with Cookie and cookielib in the stdlib reorg. My current idea is the new names cookie.client and cookie.server for Cookie and cookielib, respectively. While this goes against the

Re: [Web-SIG] Merge Cookie and cookielib?

2008-02-05 Thread Brett Cannon
On Feb 5, 2008 3:40 PM, Robert Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brett Cannon wrote: So my question is whether you all would be up for handling a merging of Cookie and cookielib for 2.6? I appreciate the thought and effort for a smooth transition, but -1 on this idea if I understand

Re: [Web-SIG] Removal of Cookie in Python 3.0 OK?

2008-02-04 Thread Brett Cannon
On Feb 4, 2008 11:39 AM, Ian Bicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brett Cannon wrote: On Feb 3, 2008 3:41 PM, Ian Bicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brett Cannon wrote: As part of the standard library cleanup for Python 3.0, it has been suggested to me that the Cookie module be removed

Re: [Web-SIG] Removal of Cookie in Python 3.0 OK?

2008-02-04 Thread Brett Cannon
On Feb 4, 2008 12:50 PM, Bill Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think most web frameworks use setuptools at this point. I'd rather get this as a distribution, rather than from the standard library. In fact, I'd prefer to see all web-development libraries distributed separate from the

[Web-SIG] Removal of Cookie in Python 3.0 OK?

2008-02-03 Thread Brett Cannon
As part of the standard library cleanup for Python 3.0, it has been suggested to me that the Cookie module be removed. The rationale for this is that most of the module is already deprecated and cookielib does a better job for cookie support anyway. I just wanted to see if anyone here had strong