While we're expressing opinions, here's mine: Achipa's post is subjective; but I would listen to 10 years of expertise that formed any opinion. While I don't have 10 years, I can see what lock-in can do (I'm trying to dig my company out of IBM lock-in). Besides, criticizing a concept is more valid than criticizing a particular product because it shows that the critique is based on reason rather than emotion.
But those frameworks are here and its better to take advantage of them than to ignore them. This statement assumes a surplus of programming hours. -tim JorgeRpo wrote: > Well I havent used appcelerator either. > > But I found your opinion very personal and subjective. I am not going > to argue your points at this time. > > You dont seem to be criticzicing appcelerator buth the logic behind > its existence. > > So you dont agree neither with MS Silverlight, Mozilla Prism, Google > GWT, and others. > > But those frameworks are here and its better to take advantage of them > than to ignore them. > > > On Oct 29, 9:54 am, achipa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> <disclaimer> >> I have not used appcelerator in any real life projects and just went >> through the docs/tutorials/screencasts. I did use half a dozen web >> oriented languages, frameworks and templating systems in the past ten >> years. >> </disclaimer> >> >> Hate to be the Yin of all topics, but I find appceletator to be a bit >> heavy on the buzz side. What I think is the worst error in the concept >> is the Web Expression Language part. It somehow feels super cool and >> super wrong to me at the same time. It reintroduces program logic in >> places people were fighting years to get it out of, and doing it in an >> unreadable form (as it pretends to be html for syntax purposes, which >> is worse than any JS toolkit). This means two more things IMO - *real* >> designers won't be able to touch it, and it will have a strong lock-in >> factor as a design/UI made in it cannot be ported to any other >> framework (which is why all the JS toolkits actually make sense as you >> can adapt them to any underlying backend). 5 years ago I'd be super >> impressed with appcelerator, but now it seems to me as an approach >> with a dark side potential. Conceptually, it feels a lot like >> (Open)Laszlo, also a super cool and simultaneously super wrong >> approach. >> >> On Oct 29, 2:04 pm, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> Thank you for your comments. >>> >>> I like appcelerator. I am reserving time over the christmas break to >>> learn more about it. Something may happen. >>> >>> Massimo >>> >>> On Oct 29, 2:38 am, Dunsun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> It would be great to integrate Appcelerator with web2py. >>>> It would give us a superiority over all other frameworks. >>>> Web2py is clearly the best framework for python and Appcelerator is >>>> easy and very efficient way to add RIA and SOA to web2py. >>>> >>>> Any plans for the future ? >>>> Thank you. >>>> > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to web2py@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
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