I am pretty sure that if you omit this line:

        form.append(INPUT(_type='hidden', _value=newyear, _name
='newyear'))

the field still goes in db because of "default" thus no need for
validation.

Massimo


On Jun 14, 2:26 am, Hans Donner <hans.don...@pobox.com> wrote:
> I think there is, but currently I've came up with:
>
> def year():
>     # too many - fail
>     if len(request.args) > 1:
>         redirect(URL(r=request,args=[]))
>
>     # init
>     table = db.year_year
>     app_settings = AppSettings()
>     arg0 = None
>     if len(request.args) == 1:
>         arg0 = request.args[0]
>
>     if arg0 == 'add':
>
>         def update_settings(form):
>             requested = form.request_vars.newyear
>             if not app_settings['min_year']:
>                 requested = form.vars.year
>                 app_settings['min_year'] = requested
>             app_settings['max_year'] = requested
>             app_settings.commit()
>
>         def onvalidate_addyear(form):
>             if app_settings['max_year']:
>                 next = str(int(app_settings['max_year']) + 1)
>                 requested = form.request_vars.newyear
>                 if next and requested != next:
>                     if requested <= next:
>                         session.flash = \
>                             "The year %s has already been added" % requested
>                     else:
>                         session.flash = \
>                             "The year %s does not follow %s" % (requested, 
> next)
>                     redirect(URL(r=request, args=['add']))
>                 form.vars.year = requested
>
>         default = dict(
>             table = table,
>             onaccept = update_settings,
>             onvalidation = onvalidate_addyear
>             )
>
>         if app_settings['min_year'] == None:
>             # no years yet - need to add first
>             form = crud.create(**default)
>             return dict(form = form)
>         else:
>             newyear = int(app_settings['max_year']) + 1
>             table.year.writeable = False
>             table.year.default = newyear
>             form = crud.create(**default)
>             # add field to hold value for input
>             form.append(INPUT(_type='hidden', _value=newyear, _name =
> 'newyear'))
>             return dict(form = form)
>
>     # no add
>     rows = db().select(table.ALL)
>     all_years = extract_field(rows, 'year')
>
>     if arg0 and int(arg0) and \
>             arg0 >= app_settings['min_year'] and arg0 <=
> app_settings['max_year']:
>         form = crud.read(table, rows[all_years.index(arg0)])
>         return dict(form = form)
>     elif arg0:
>         redirect(URL(r=request,args=[]))
>
>     return dict(app = app_settings.row, years = all_years)
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 2:16 AM, mdipierro<mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > can you post an example? I am sure there is a better way.
>
> > Massimo
>
> > On Jun 13, 3:28 pm, Hans Donner <hans.don...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> the model has some more fields, entered by the user. This filed is
> >> prepopulated by the server.
> >> On submitting the prepopluated value may be not valid any more, but
> >> may not be updated by the server
> >> (is considered part of the user submitted fileds).
>
> >> Currently worked around it by adding a hidden field with the data and
> >> supplying an onvalidation.
>
> >> On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 6:31 PM, mdipierro<mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> >> > I do not understand. If the fields are marked readonly (as in
> >> > db.table.field.readonly=True) the field is not submitted from the
> >> > client to the server with the form. The form is populated serverside.
>
> >> > Massimo
>
> >> > On Jun 13, 10:38 am, Hans Donner <hans.don...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> >> Well, depends what you call 'inserted by the visitor'. In this case
> >> >> I'm prepopulating the form, some fields are not editable, but the user
> >> >> should submit these values as well.
> >> >> Guess I have to use onvalidate then to make sure all is ok.
>
> >> >> The second remark in my original posting: the 'unique' should somehow
> >> >> be supported by DAL, or warnings should be submitted that it is
> >> >> unsupported.
>
> >> >> On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 4:39 PM, mdipierro<mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> 
> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> > back to the original question. Should they validate? If they are
> >> >> > readonly it means they are not inserted by the visitor. We only
> >> >> > validate visitor provided input.
>
> >> >> > Massimo
>
> >> >> > On Jun 13, 9:02 am, Hans Donner <hans.don...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> sorry, should be db.table.field.default = ''
>
> >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 3:54 PM, mdipierro<mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> 
> >> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > I am not what you mean by:
>
> >> >> >> > db.table.field = 'some invalid value for the requires[]'
>
> >> >> >> > It seems to be redefining the field. It should give an error.
>
> >> >> >> > On Jun 13, 8:28 am, Hans Donner <hans.don...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> db.define_table(
> >> >> >> >>     'test',
> >> >> >> >>     SQLField('unique', 'string', unique = True,
> >> >> >> >>         requires = IS_NOT_IN_DB(db, 'test.unique')),
> >> >> >> >>     )
>
> >> >> >> >> def pseudo():
> >> >> >> >>    db.table.field.writable = False
> >> >> >> >>    db.table.field = 'some invalid value for the requires[]'
> >> >> >> >>    form = crud.create(db.table)
>
> >> >> >> >> the form doesn't run the validators for the non-writable field, 
> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> when you are on GAE the uniqueness is not enforced on db level 
> >> >> >> >> (and
> >> >> >> >> DAL does not make up for this).
>
> >> >> >> >> When I have the following:
> >> >> >> >> def pseudo():
> >> >> >> >>    db.table.field = 'some invalid value for the requires[]'
> >> >> >> >>    form = crud.create(db.table)
> >> >> >> >>    form.custom.widget.jaar.update(**dict(_disabled = True))
>
> >> >> >> >> the value is non-editable by the user, it is validated but the 
> >> >> >> >> value is removed
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