I suggest a similar website (actually the latter is a total copy of
the former), the work will be a motivation for many people to start
learning WEB2PY.
Also short intros to WEB2PY - probably what / how / when can be done
(more or less a cookbook).
And last but not least - how can anyone find a work with WEB2PY -
there are no projects, no search and demand announced, at least not
officially?

On Jul 17, 6:24 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> I am not familiar with those web sites. What do you suggest?
>
> On Jul 16, 10:18 pm, Vidul Petrov <vidul.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Massimo,
>
> > I fully agree, everything is very well said IMHO.
>
> > Only one small addition - most of the MVC users have never even heard
> > about most of the features (not to mention the rich set that WEB2PY
> > offers).
>
> > Do you think that a website for WEB2PY like jobs.perl.org and
> > jobs.rubynow.com would help (probably some sample works should be
> > shown there also)?
>
> > Regards,
> > Vidul
>
> > On Jul 17, 5:49 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > Pareto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle) once said that
> > > 80% of effects come from 20% of causes. For software we can re-phrase
> > > as 80% of users use only 20% of features.
>
> > > These are not at all a scientific statements but you understand what
> > > they mean.
>
> > > We can add more and more features to web2py with the effect that:
> > > - web2py grows in complexity to the point that it becomes harder to
> > > maintain
> > > - web2py gets slower
> > > - I spend all my time reviewing patches instead of improving
> > > documentation
> > > - You spend all your time thinking how to improve web2py instead of
> > > building applications with it
> > > - Many of these improvement will not buy us a significant number of
> > > users.
>
> > > I am not trying to discourage people from submitting patches and I
> > > very very much appreciate people who have done so. Most if not all the
> > > patches that I have received were good and needed. I am sure I will
> > > continue to receive excellent patches.
>
> > > Yet, when discussing the roadmap it has to be clear that the point
> > > should not be adding new features. The goal should be locking existing
> > > features: make sure they are well documented, make sure there are no
> > > problems, make sure everything has tests.
>
> > > We also need a plugin system but that is not a new web2py feature.
> > > That is a set of specifications and naming conventions for writing
> > > models/views/controllers. It is possible that we may have to modify
> > > admin as result of these specs (in order to apply/remove plugins).
>
> > > Finally, this community has to do a better job at outreach. You should
> > > talk to your friends and blog about web2py. You must talk about the
> > > applications you build with it. We do not lack developers. We lack
> > > salesmen. This is not because we want to have more user but because
> > > more users means web2py is tested more, there will be more web2py
> > > jobs, and you (as early adopters) will have a better chance to sell
> > > your web2py based solutions.
>
> > > Massimo
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