Re: [webkit-dev] question about accessibility

2013-03-11 Thread Dominic Mazzoni
There is ongoing work to implement the Web Speech API ( http://www.w3.org/community/speech-api/) in WebKit. Speech recognition works in Chromium, speech synthesis is mostly implemented on Mac OS X (but it's not enabled by default yet). In both cases, the actual runtime libraries aren't part of

[webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Sergio Villar Senin
Hi, I was wondering if WebKit as a project would be interested in having overtype mode support for editable content. This in indeed the mode in which the cursor, when typing, overwrites any text that is present on and after its current location [1]. Looks like something like that could be useful

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Luis de Bethencourt
Hello Sergio, I personally find overtype a very useful tool in vim/emacs, but it is funny how half the links in the first page of Google results to overtype are about turning it off. That said, it is an interesting tool that all major text editors support, useful if you want to use it and easily

Re: [webkit-dev] Should we create an 8-bit path from the network stack to the parser?

2013-03-11 Thread Michael Saboff
Maciej, *I* deemed using a character type template for the HTMLTokenizer as being unwieldy. Given there was the existing SegmentedString input abstraction, it made logical sense to put the 8/16 bit coding there. If I would have moved the 8/16 logic into the tokenizer itself, we might have

Re: [webkit-dev] Spelling document markers: Design question

2013-03-11 Thread Rouslan Solomakhin
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Rouslan Solomakhin rouslan+web...@chromium.org wrote: The contextual spellcheck in Chromium needs to identify the spellcheck request that added spelling markers to the document. What is

Re: [webkit-dev] Spelling document markers: Design question

2013-03-11 Thread Rouslan Solomakhin
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Hajime Morrita morr...@chromium.orgwrote: There are DocumentMarker, or DocumentMakerDetails. Which do you have in your mind? I had DocumentMarkerDetails in mind. It seems to be the standard location of auxiliary information for a document marker. Or you

Re: [webkit-dev] LLInt without JIT

2013-03-11 Thread Fritz Koenig
Awesome, thanks for the detailed response. I did not realize that going to the assembly backend would not produce a substantial improvement. But after you explanation, I can see the reasons. I'll do some more testing to see the impact. If I see it to be worthwhile and I can fix it, I'll submit

Re: [webkit-dev] Should we create an 8-bit path from the network stack to the parser?

2013-03-11 Thread Adam Barth
Oh, Ok. I misunderstood your original message to say that the project as a whole had reached this conclusion, which certainly isn't the case, rather than that you personally had reached that conclusion. As for the long-term direction of the HTML parser, my guess is that the optimum design will

Re: [webkit-dev] Should we create an 8-bit path from the network stack to the parser?

2013-03-11 Thread Darin Adler
On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: As for the long-term direction of the HTML parser, my guess is that the optimum design will be to deliver the network bytes to the parser directly on the parser thread. Sounds right to me. If you're about to reply

Re: [webkit-dev] Should we create an 8-bit path from the network stack to the parser?

2013-03-11 Thread Michael Saboff
No complaints with the long term direction. I agree that it is a tall order to implement. - Michael On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: Oh, Ok. I misunderstood your original message to say that the project as a whole had reached this conclusion, which certainly

Re: [webkit-dev] Should we create an 8-bit path from the network stack to the parser?

2013-03-11 Thread Adam Barth
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Darin Adler da...@apple.com wrote: On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: If you're about to reply complaining about the above, please save your complaints for another time. Huh? The last time we tried to talk about changing the

Re: [webkit-dev] -khtml- and -apple- CSS prefixes

2013-03-11 Thread Simon Fraser
On Mar 9, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Mar 8, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: I've posted a patch to limit the -apple- and -khtml- CSS vendor prefixes to ENABLE(DASHBOARD_SUPPORT): https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111890 My

Re: [webkit-dev] Spelling document markers: Design question

2013-03-11 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
Thanks for the clarification. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Rouslan Solomakhin rouslan+web...@chromium.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Rouslan Solomakhin rouslan+web...@chromium.org wrote: The contextual

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Sergio Villar Senin svil...@igalia.comwrote: I was wondering if WebKit as a project would be interested in having overtype mode support for editable content. This in indeed the mode in which the cursor, when typing, overwrites any text that is present on and

[webkit-dev] Elliot Sprehn is now a reviewer

2013-03-11 Thread Eric Seidel
May our generated content (and general render safety and speed) live long and prosper. :) Grats Elliot! ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev

Re: [webkit-dev] Elliot Sprehn is now a reviewer

2013-03-11 Thread Levi Weintraub
Congrats sir!! On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote: May our generated content (and general render safety and speed) live long and prosper. :) Grats Elliot! ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Peter Kasting
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: Is it expected that overtype works on Windows or on Linux? e.g. If Edit and RichEdit window classes both support this feature natively on Windows (which I bet they do), then the answer is yes. The non-rich edit control on

Re: [webkit-dev] Elliot Sprehn is now a reviewer

2013-03-11 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote: May our generated content (and general render safety and speed) live long and prosper. :) Don't forget the Shadow DOM! Congrats Elliott! Ask Kling to get you the keys for the reviewers lounge. :DG

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: Is it expected that overtype works on Windows or on Linux? e.g. If Edit and RichEdit window classes both support this feature natively on Windows

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Peter Kasting
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.comwrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: Is it expected that overtype works on Windows or on Linux? e.g. If Edit and

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.comwrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: Is

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: un-customized Edit and RichText establish what's norm on Windows to a certain extent. It should read: un-customized Edit and RichEdit establish what's norm on Windows to a certain extent. - R. Niwa

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Peter Kasting
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: Of course, each application can implement overtype in Edit window class and manually disable it in RichEdit window class but I don't think that's an interesting fact since that's a customization. An application doesn't

Re: [webkit-dev] Spelling document markers: Design question

2013-03-11 Thread Hajime Morrita
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: Thanks for the clarification. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Rouslan Solomakhin rouslan+web...@chromium.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:58

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: Of course, each application can implement overtype in Edit window class and manually disable it in RichEdit window class but I don't think that's an

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Peter Kasting
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: Having said that, I object to implementing a behavior doesn't match RichEdit or Edit window classes on Windows. We should match either native edit window class. Are you referring to my comments about the cursor? Do you

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: Having said that, I object to implementing a behavior doesn't match RichEdit or Edit window classes on Windows. We should match either native edit

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Peter Kasting
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: Yes, we should disable triple-click-to-select-all on Windows You realize that Wordpad, Word, and Internet Explorer all support this, though, right? My point was not just to raise a behavior that seems like a clear win, it

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Shezan Baig
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: I question whether it makes sense at all from a user's perspective. Users don't know or care what classes are used to implement their applications, they care what the applications do. And from that perspective Windows

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Peter Kasting
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Shezan Baig shezbaig...@gmail.com wrote: I feel like I should give some background to this discussion. Thanks for this context. It's helpful. So I guess the question boils down to something like: if we have changes that are generally useful, but not used in

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Shezan Baig shezbaig...@gmail.com wrote: We are in the process of porting our native Windows application from using a proprietary rendering framework to using WebKit as our rendering framework. Our application is not Chrome, neither is it Safari, Firefox, or

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Shezan Baig shezbaig...@gmail.comwrote: We are in the process of porting our native Windows application from using a proprietary rendering framework to using WebKit as our rendering

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Shezan Baig shezbaig...@gmail.comwrote: We are in the process of porting our native Windows application from using a proprietary rendering framework to using WebKit as our rendering

Re: [webkit-dev] Overtype mode in WebKit for editable content?

2013-03-11 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Shezan Baig shezbaig...@gmail.com wrote: I feel like I should give some background to this discussion. Thanks for this context. It's helpful. So I guess the question boils down to