Re: [webkit-dev] Swift in WebKit

2014-07-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:44 PM, David Farler dfar...@apple.com wrote: On Jul 28, 2014, at 17:10, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: In particular see Maciej's response in https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2011-December/018865.html. From the second e-mail: In

Re: [webkit-dev] Swift in WebKit

2014-07-29 Thread David Farler
On Jul 29, 2014, at 00:14, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:44 PM, David Farler dfar...@apple.com wrote: On Jul 28, 2014, at 17:10, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: In particular see Maciej's response in

[webkit-dev] Swift in WebKit

2014-07-28 Thread David Farler
Hello all, I have the following bug to help build out support for layout tests in the iOS Simulator. iOS Simulator LayoutTestRelay https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135269 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135269 I'd like to include this as a new tool written in Swift. Why I

Re: [webkit-dev] Swift in WebKit

2014-07-28 Thread Sam Weinig
Hi David, I think it is a bit too early to start using Swift in WebKit, especially since the language is still evolving. Eventually, I think we should start using it, but I’d like for it to settle a bit before we do. - Sam On Jul 28, 2014, at 12:47 PM, David Farler dfar...@apple.com wrote:

Re: [webkit-dev] Swift in WebKit

2014-07-28 Thread Geoffrey Garen
Two concerns that came up today: (1) A binary built with Swift today can only run if the client individual has the same version of Xcode installed. (Is this true?) (2) The language and implementation are still changing in breaking ways. Geoff On Jul 28, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Sam Weinig

Re: [webkit-dev] Swift in WebKit

2014-07-28 Thread David Farler
On Jul 28, 2014, at 2:57 PM, Geoffrey Garen gga...@apple.com wrote: Two concerns that came up today: (1) A binary built with Swift today can only run if the client individual has the same version of Xcode installed. (Is this true?) Not sure if it's true (I haven't hit this) but I

Re: [webkit-dev] Swift in WebKit

2014-07-28 Thread Geoffrey Garen
(2) The language and implementation are still changing in breaking ways. Yep, I concede to this. My only question in response is whether it's valuable to observe those changes in a project like this or even to use a project like this to investigate other points of discussion, like: - Is

Re: [webkit-dev] Swift in WebKit

2014-07-28 Thread Sam Weinig
On Jul 28, 2014, at 4:38 PM, Geoffrey Garen gga...@apple.com wrote: (2) The language and implementation are still changing in breaking ways. Yep, I concede to this. My only question in response is whether it's valuable to observe those changes in a project like this or even to use a

Re: [webkit-dev] Swift in WebKit

2014-07-28 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:47 PM, David Farler dfar...@apple.com wrote: Hello all, I have the following bug to help build out support for layout tests in the iOS Simulator. iOS Simulator LayoutTestRelay https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135269 I'd like to include this as a new tool

Re: [webkit-dev] Swift in WebKit

2014-07-28 Thread David Farler
On Jul 28, 2014, at 17:10, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org mailto:rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:47 PM, David Farler dfar...@apple.com mailto:dfar...@apple.com wrote: Hello all, I have the following bug to help build out support for layout tests in the iOS Simulator.

Re: [webkit-dev] Swift in WebKit

2014-07-28 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 8:44 PM, David Farler dfar...@apple.com wrote: On Jul 28, 2014, at 17:10, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:47 PM, David Farler dfar...@apple.com wrote: Hello all, I have the following bug to help build out support for layout tests in

Re: [webkit-dev] Swift in WebKit

2014-07-28 Thread David Farler
On Jul 28, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 8:44 PM, David Farler dfar...@apple.com mailto:dfar...@apple.com wrote: On Jul 28, 2014, at 17:10, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org mailto:rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:47 PM,

Re: [webkit-dev] Swift in WebKit

2014-07-28 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:30 PM, David Farler dfar...@apple.com wrote: On Jul 28, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 8:44 PM, David Farler dfar...@apple.com wrote: On Jul 28, 2014, at 17:10, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 28,

Re: [webkit-dev] Swift in WebKit

2014-07-28 Thread David Farler
On Jul 28, 2014, at 22:42, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:30 PM, David Farler dfar...@apple.com wrote: On Jul 28, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 8:44 PM, David Farler dfar...@apple.com wrote: On Jul 28,

Re: [webkit-dev] Swift in WebKit

2014-07-28 Thread Gavin Barraclough
On Jul 28, 2014, at 12:47 PM, David Farler dfar...@apple.com wrote: - Swift is a fully supported, albeit new, language starting in Xcode 6. I think you missed a word off the end of this sentence – Swift support is available in Xcode 6 beta. ;-) Too soon. G.