Re: WO and alternative languages was Re: WWDC

2007-06-17 Thread Q
On 18/06/2007, at 1:45 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote: On 18/06/2007, at 12:43 PM, Q wrote: Speaking of which, I've played around with WOGroovy and I was pretty impressed with it. After a somewhat rocky start, Groovy has become reasonably mature and WOGroovy seems to work well. It's also a relati

Re: WWDC photos (WebObjects Lab + Bash)

2007-06-17 Thread Owen McKerrow
Moscone North. Moscone West( where its held at the moemnt ) is the smallest of the Moscone Centers I believe. Owen McKerrow WebMaster, emlab Ph : +61 02 4221 5517 http://emlab.uow.edu.au - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - People who pr

Re: WWDC photos (WebObjects Lab + Bash)

2007-06-17 Thread Miguel Arroz
Hi! I didn't like it very much. The music was really bad. The place is cool, but it's not Mac-related. I live in Portugal, far far away from the "mother-ship". Last year it was great to see it, be there, notice the small details, like the pixelized fonts and Cairo icons around, etc. The

Re: WO and alternative languages was Re: WWDC

2007-06-17 Thread Lachlan Deck
On 18/06/2007, at 12:43 PM, Q wrote: Speaking of which, I've played around with WOGroovy and I was pretty impressed with it. After a somewhat rocky start, Groovy has become reasonably mature and WOGroovy seems to work well. It's also a relatively small project, which is reassuring. If it wa

WO and alternative languages was Re: WWDC

2007-06-17 Thread Q
On 18/06/2007, at 2:18 AM, Bruce Fancher wrote: As a typically lazy developer, one of the things I miss the most from the Objective-C version of WebObjects was the ability to very quickly write and refine pages with WebScript, and just sit there hitting reload until I got the code right.

Re: WWDC

2007-06-17 Thread Q
On 18/06/2007, at 12:14 AM, Damien Petrilli wrote: Le 17 juin 07 à 01:02, Q a écrit : On 17/06/2007, at 8:45 AM, Simon McLean wrote: If there is a language change in the pipeline then my money would be on a Ruby version of WO - now that would be interesting.. . :-) Ruby is SLOW, and by

Re: Duplicate objects in a relationship

2007-06-17 Thread Simon McLean
Hi Chuck - I am using inheritance, but of the single table variety: Is the restricting qualifier unique across all entities? Do the abstract ones have a restricting qualifier? Yes, and yes. Client has a parent called AbstractOrganisation, EmployeeRole has a parent called AbstractUserRole

Re: irc channel

2007-06-17 Thread Timo Hoepfner
Hi, just in case someone is looking for a decent IRC client for the Mac, you can find a nice one here: http://colloquy.info Timo PS: We could need a few more people on the channel... :) Am 17.06.2007 um 21:17 schrieb David LeBer: Hello all, I just registered a WebObjects irc channel: #

Re: Duplicate objects in a relationship

2007-06-17 Thread Chuck Hill
On Jun 16, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Simon McLean wrote: Hi Chuck - I am using inheritance, but of the single table variety: Is the restricting qualifier unique across all entities? Do the abstract ones have a restricting qualifier? Client has a parent called AbstractOrganisation, EmployeeRole

irc channel

2007-06-17 Thread David LeBer
Hello all, I just registered a WebObjects irc channel: #webo on irc.freenode.net. I figure all the cool kids are doing it... -- ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.

Re: WWDC Bash

2007-06-17 Thread Chuck Hill
I also thought it was a good party this year and did not miss the 90 minutes of sitting on a bus. Chuck On Jun 17, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Jeremy Rosenberg wrote: I liked the San Fran bash better, having only done one of the kind at the campus. I'm sure it was a logistics thing, this was the

Re: Simple ant question.

2007-06-17 Thread Chuck Hill
Why not extend the type, put it in WOProject and do the validation in Java? This is usually a much easier way to accomplish things and won't add additonal dependancies outside of the woproject jar. Chuck On Jun 16, 2007, at 9:26 PM, Q wrote: I am reworking the WAR and SSDD targets in a bu

RE: WWDC Bash

2007-06-17 Thread Bruce Fancher
The bash in SF was pretty nice. My only complaint is that when I drove down from Cupertino, the police had closed the 4th street exit, so I ended up arriving a half hour later than I would've because I had to drive over the Bay Bridge and then drive around Oakland trying to find my way back. But

RE: Hibernate was Re: News from Webobjecs sessions

2007-06-17 Thread Bruce Fancher
I also prefer EOF and Cayenne to Hibernate, but I've had to use Hibernate on a project and it's usable. It's not great, and certain things like the criteria api are completely broken to the point of uselessness, but as open sources projects go I've seen much worse. I think the use of annotations

RE: WWDC

2007-06-17 Thread Bruce Fancher
As a typically lazy developer, one of the things I miss the most from the Objective-C version of WebObjects was the ability to very quickly write and refine pages with WebScript, and just sit there hitting reload until I got the code right. Much, much faster than the code-compile-launch-test-stop-

WWDC Bash

2007-06-17 Thread Jeremy Rosenberg
I liked the San Fran bash better, having only done one of the kind at the campus. I'm sure it was a logistics thing, this was the biggest WWDC ever, over 5000 people, it was becoming silly since there was a perfectly good location right there and they brought the t-shirts to us. (I know pe

Re: WWDC

2007-06-17 Thread Damien Petrilli
Le 17 juin 07 à 01:02, Q a écrit : On 17/06/2007, at 8:45 AM, Simon McLean wrote: If there is a language change in the pipeline then my money would be on a Ruby version of WO - now that would be interesting.. . :-) Ruby is SLOW, and by design it is never going to be anywhere near the sp

Re: WWDC photos (WebObjects Lab + Bash)

2007-06-17 Thread Alexander Spohr
Cliff, any info on why there is no more Campus Bash? To many busses needed? (Environment) Bad behavior of guests? (Lurking for Prototypes) How was the SF Bash compared to the Campus Bash? atze Am 16.06.2007 um 22:57 schrieb Cliff Tuel: WWDC was a great success this year! Thanks to e

Re: Simple ant question.

2007-06-17 Thread Q
On 17/06/2007, at 3:10 PM, Ray Kiddy wrote: On Jun 16, 2007, at 9:26 PM, Q wrote: I am reworking the WAR and SSDD targets in a build.xml file and am trying to add some error checking. I can verify that individual files like web.xml and LICENSE exist, but I also want to check if all the