Re: Preview of the organization survey

Hi Pascal Is there any time slot set for preview web site : ) Could't access since yesterday. Message got is "This survey is currently closed. Please contact the author of this survey for further assistance." Cheers Cheong Hee Just to be clear, this is a PREVIEW! If you answer the whole

Re: encoding of url appended values in WORedirect

Hi Susanne Not sure if this could be of help. I suggest an alternative way that is not related to encoding. It may be possible to use Base64 encoding to convert "München" to a proper serialize printable string. In this case, you may avoid the encoding problem passing through url. This is

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:02 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: If you were well-versed in ANY field, wouldn't your scenario equally be true? If I'm a mechanic and you come up with a new engine design, once I see what you've done and how you've done it, it's probably pretty easy for me to make one ... I h

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

If you were well-versed in ANY field, wouldn't your scenario equally be true? If I'm a mechanic and you come up with a new engine design, once I see what you've done and how you've done it, it's probably pretty easy for me to make one ... I have no idea about Pharma, but I presume that once

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

Sorry, can't resist :) From what I understand is that your supreme court basically said that everything man-made under the sun should be patentable. Recently even they finally came to their sense and said it had to have some physical component. The reason (as I understand it) is that patent

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

That example is tricky. Data structures can be considered mathematical concepts sorry .. lazy example .. i kind of intended that in the "objecty" sense --- "data structure + algorithm". as i understand it, you would not (at least in the US) be able to patent a data structure (and technical

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

I was surprised to read your earlier entry that Europe doesn't recognize software patents (I've worked for companies that filed patents in Europe) so I did a little (very little) research to that claim. "EPC excludes "programs for computers" from patentability (Art. 52(2)) to the extent t

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

Hi! That example is tricky. Data structures can be considered mathematical concepts (in portugal we call "informatica" to everything, but the english language clearly makes a distinction between software engineering and computer science). Can you patent a mathematical concept? That does

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

On the issue of patents in software industry, I would recommend the following paper by Maskin (Nobel prize in economics): http://www.researchoninnovation.org/patent.pdf JPM ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobj

Re: more pubcookie wo

On Sep 15, 2009, at 10:53 AM, Gordon Belray wrote: Hey again, We have a directAction that is protected by the pubcookie module, we have tried using directActionName > and When we use a submit button within a form bound to a a directAction we get this: Error message: "Invalid POST dat

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

Copyright is a very different set of laws, protecting a different issue, though. My main point still stands -- if you're FOR traditional patents, why would you be AGAINST software patents. All the same intrinsic reasons for existence apply and several of the same problems (i invented it ind

more pubcookie wo

Hey again, We have a directAction that is protected by the pubcookie module, we have tried using directActionName > and When we use a submit button within a form bound to a a directAction we get this: Error message: "Invalid POST data. (POST data length: 0)" But if we use the directAct

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

Hi! If you consider the App Store, yes, it doesn't help. But any other business that doesn't have to be sold or approved by a single big- brother company can be Europe-based, without concern for sw patents. Yours Miguel Arroz On 2009/09/15, at 17:46, Anjo Krank wrote: Fat lotta help t

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

Where to start :) They really, truly impede progress, Software is already protected by copyright. For other reasons: http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/en/m/intro/explain.html But the basics are: if you are a dev in a small company, you'd be utterly, royally crazy to be for software patents. T

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

Fat lotta help that is. Apple is in the US. If you put an "infringing" app into the app store, the least that will happen is they kick you out. Cheers, Anjo Am 15.09.2009 um 18:27 schrieb Miguel Arroz: Hi! Or you may all move to Europe, where software patents are not valid. :) (This

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

As I understand it, NeXT (and now Apple) actually has a patent on KVC and O-R mapping ... I recall an O-R product (in fact an O-R company) as early as 1985. Can't remember the name of the company but they weren't alone and this should not be a surprise, given the importance/prevelance of

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

Speaking for myself here (and definitely not for my employer) I don't see Apple using it's patent portfolio to generate cash but rather as a counter defense against trolls. I'm just saying... Alan On Sep 15, 2009, at 9:55 AM, Q wrote: On 16/09/2009, at 1:09 AM, André Mitra wrote: you

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

Hi! Or you may all move to Europe, where software patents are not valid. :) (This would greatly simplify WOWODC organization!) Yours Miguel Arroz On 2009/09/15, at 17:10, Mike Schrag wrote: As I understand it, NeXT (and now Apple) actually has a patent on KVC and O-R mapping ... T

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

As I understand it, NeXT (and now Apple) actually has a patent on KVC and O-R mapping ... They seem obvious now (well, unless you've looked at EOF source :) ), but pretty novel in 1994. It's a weird thing for me. People obviously abuse the hell out of them, but if you believe regular paten

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

On 16/09/2009, at 1:09 AM, André Mitra wrote: you don't have Apple stock? Software patents are just evil. I recently investigated the possibility of writing something for the iphone but the patent indemnity cost for one of the key technology components it required was prohibitively expe

encoding of url appended values in WORedirect

Hi list, I have problems with the handling of encoding in url send values with the WORedirect component. Environment: WO 5.4.2, Eclipse 3.4.2, WOLips 3.4.583 Description: We have two separate applications which communicate via direct actions. Because the applications are on different servers

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

you don't have Apple stock? On 15-Sep-09, at 10:52 AM, Anjo Krank wrote: Death to software patents (and their holders!) Cheers, Anjo Am 15.09.2009 um 15:57 schrieb Mike Schrag: apple has patents on many aspects of WebObjects that are valuable On Sep 15, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Mike Nowak wrote

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

Death to software patents (and their holders!) Cheers, Anjo Am 15.09.2009 um 15:57 schrieb Mike Schrag: apple has patents on many aspects of WebObjects that are valuable On Sep 15, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Mike Nowak wrote: I just don't understand why an enterprise level technology like WebObje

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

apple has patents on many aspects of WebObjects that are valuable On Sep 15, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Mike Nowak wrote: I just don't understand why an enterprise level technology like WebObjects is a state secret. I can understand why consumer products need a level of secrecy to build excitement an

Re: WebObjects become opensource ?

I just don't understand why an enterprise level technology like WebObjects is a state secret. I can understand why consumer products need a level of secrecy to build excitement and not to cannibalize sales but WebObjects? On Sep 13, 2009, at 2:45 PM, David LeBer wrote: Mike, Not to be ha

Re: Default values for new objects d2w

"look at the bug tracker" is what i told you, didn't i? Cheers, Anjo Am 15.09.2009 um 15:28 schrieb Freddie Tilley: Okay, I've got it working (finally), I did not know I had to add ERDActionBar to my template manually :) Thanks! Freddie Tilley 2009/9/15 Anjo Krank Make sure you check o

Re: Default values for new objects d2w

Okay, I've got it working (finally), I did not know I had to add ERDActionBar to my template manually :) Thanks! Freddie Tilley 2009/9/15 Anjo Krank >> >> Make sure you check out this page too if you haven't already: >> >> http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/D2W+Flow+Control >> >>

Re: [MEETING] WO-NOVA 9/15/09

Greetings, For those of you who may have missed it. . . Please let me know if you plan to attend! This month's WO-NOVA meeting for Northern Virginia, Maryland and Washington DC area WO developers along with the inevitable groupies is scheduled for . . . . [drum roll] TONIGHT! As usual,

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