Re: REST/JSON front-end to JavaMonitor

2011-05-12 Thread Pascal Robert
All the ex-Apple people at Motorola? :-) > Who's gonna do the android app? :-) > > Tim Worman > UCLA GSE&IS > > On May 12, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > >> A few people have started on an iPad/iPhone interface for it. Nothing has >> been released that I know of. >> >> >> On May 12,

Re: REST/JSON front-end to JavaMonitor

2011-05-12 Thread David Holt
On 2011-05-12, at 4:40 PM, Jesse Tayler wrote: > > On May 12, 2011, at 7:31 PM, David Holt wrote: > >> From reports from someone who would know, this is supposed to have even >> higher performance than bplist: >> > > faster than bplist seems fishy! pretty nice charts to prove otherwise, but

Re: REST/JSON front-end to JavaMonitor

2011-05-12 Thread Tim Worman
Who's gonna do the android app? :-) Tim Worman UCLA GSE&IS On May 12, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > A few people have started on an iPad/iPhone interface for it. Nothing has > been released that I know of. > > > On May 12, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Klaus Berkling wrote: > >> Since the wonde

Re: REST/JSON front-end to JavaMonitor

2011-05-12 Thread Jesse Tayler
On May 12, 2011, at 7:31 PM, David Holt wrote: > From reports from someone who would know, this is supposed to have even > higher performance than bplist: > faster than bplist seems fishy! pretty nice charts to prove otherwise, but a curious lift of the brow is given...

Re: REST/JSON front-end to JavaMonitor

2011-05-12 Thread David Holt
On 2011-05-12, at 4:28 PM, Klaus Berkling wrote: > > On May 12, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Jesse Tayler wrote: > >> it does? >> >> I'd write an iphone app for that which the group could have as an example... > > OT: XML in iOS was a PITA (shameless plug). Is there a JSON framework? >Fro

Re: REST/JSON front-end to JavaMonitor

2011-05-12 Thread Klaus Berkling
On May 12, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Jesse Tayler wrote: > it does? > > I'd write an iphone app for that which the group could have as an example... OT: XML in iOS was a PITA (shameless plug). Is there a JSON framework? kib "The trouble with normal is it always gets worse." Bruce Coc

Re: REST/JSON front-end to JavaMonitor

2011-05-12 Thread Mertz Stéphan
Cool ! Le 12 mai 2011 à 23:42, Jesse Tayler a écrit : > it does? > > I'd write an iphone app for that which the group could have as an example... > > > On May 12, 2011, at 5:36 PM, Klaus Berkling wrote: > >> Since the wonder JavaMonitor has REST & JSON, anyone written a front end for >> it?

Re: Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread Ramsey Gurley
On May 12, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Dov Rosenberg wrote: > The linux journal article specifically states that the definition of a > derivative work is very muddy. There are several "tests" that the GPL > licenses ask to clarify the usage of the included libraries - I.e. How is > it used? Static linked,

Re: REST/JSON front-end to JavaMonitor

2011-05-12 Thread Jesse Tayler
it does? I'd write an iphone app for that which the group could have as an example... On May 12, 2011, at 5:36 PM, Klaus Berkling wrote: > Since the wonder JavaMonitor has REST & JSON, anyone written a front end for > it? > > (Afraid to ask given what I started with that other thread...) > >

Re: REST/JSON front-end to JavaMonitor

2011-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
A few people have started on an iPad/iPhone interface for it. Nothing has been released that I know of. On May 12, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Klaus Berkling wrote: > Since the wonder JavaMonitor has REST & JSON, anyone written a front end for > it? > > (Afraid to ask given what I started with that ot

REST/JSON front-end to JavaMonitor

2011-05-12 Thread Klaus Berkling
Since the wonder JavaMonitor has REST & JSON, anyone written a front end for it? (Afraid to ask given what I started with that other thread...) kib "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." Winston Churchill Klaus Berkling Web Application Dev. & S

Re: Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread Ramsey Gurley
Drats! That shady Chuck Hill character strikes again (^_~) Ramsey On May 12, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Dov Rosenberg wrote: > We had a code scan done using Protex Black Duck. The only thing that was > flagged from Project Wonder was they found similar references to Chuck > Hill's GVCSiteMaker which was

Re: Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread Dov Rosenberg
Actually black duck must have some huge repository of code - it compares source to all sorts of open source things that they have scanned. It is similar to what colleges use to check for plagiarism. If it finds matches in algorithms or exact blocks of code snippets it gets flagged. Obviously your o

Re: Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
I trust they had no issue with the ECL? On May 12, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Dov Rosenberg wrote: > The linux journal article specifically states that the definition of a > derivative work is very muddy. There are several "tests" that the GPL > licenses ask to clarify the usage of the included libraries

Re: Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread Dov Rosenberg
The linux journal article specifically states that the definition of a derivative work is very muddy. There are several "tests" that the GPL licenses ask to clarify the usage of the included libraries - I.e. How is it used? Static linked, dynamic linked, etc. Bottom line - if you get into an IP di

Re: Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
No one expects The Spanish Inquisition! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY On May 12, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote: > Drats! That shady Chuck Hill character strikes again (^_~) > > Ramsey > > On May 12, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Dov Rosenberg wrote: > >> We had a code scan done usi

Re: Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
On May 12, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Dov Rosenberg wrote: > We had a code scan done using Protex Black Duck. That sounds like something unpleasant that would be used in a proctologists' office. > The only thing that was > flagged from Project Wonder was they found similar references to Chuck > Hill's

Re: Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread Dov Rosenberg
We had a code scan done using Protex Black Duck. The only thing that was flagged from Project Wonder was they found similar references to Chuck Hill's GVCSiteMaker which was released under an Educational Community License. It took a bit of explaining to document the relationship between GVCSiteMake

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-12 Thread John Huss
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Amy Worrall wrote: > > The suggestion to put them somewhere other than /Library/Frameworks or > > /System/Library/Frameworks is really misguided in my opinion. It works > > great for people who have been using WO for 10 years, or who work on > > multiple versions

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-12 Thread Amy Worrall
> The suggestion to put them somewhere other than /Library/Frameworks or > /System/Library/Frameworks is really misguided in my opinion.  It works > great for people who have been using WO for 10 years, or who work on > multiple versions of WO, or who are employed by Apple.  If none of those are >

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-12 Thread John Huss
The suggestion to put them somewhere other than /Library/Frameworks or /System/Library/Frameworks is really misguided in my opinion. It works great for people who have been using WO for 10 years, or who work on multiple versions of WO, or who are employed by Apple. If none of those are true for y

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-12 Thread Amy Worrall
While we're on the topic, I'm having a bit of trouble installing everything on a fresh machine. It's doubtless a trivial issue but I don't know Eclipse very well… I installed Webobjects using woinstaller.jar, and put it in /Developer/WebObjects. I installed Eclipse via binary download. I install

Re: Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread Ramsey Gurley
On May 12, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Dov Rosenberg wrote: > The key part of the GPL license that poisons its use for commercial purposes > is the very first clause: > > 0. This License applies to any program or other work which contains > a notice placed by the copyright holder saying it may be distri

Re: qualifier to check for empty toMany

2011-05-12 Thread Alexis Tual
See below, Le 12 mai 2011 à 19:33, Fred Wells a écrit : > Almost but the SQL that get generated isn't right, any one know a way around > this error? > > EvaluateExpression failed: > DISTINCT t0.actualEndDate, t0.actualStartDate, t0.approvalOutput, > t0.childNbr, t0.description, t0.duration,

Re: Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread Dov Rosenberg
The key part of the GPL license that poisons its use for commercial purposes is the very first clause: 0. This License applies to any program or other work which contains a notice placed by the copyright holder saying it may be distributed under the terms of this General Public License. The "Prog

Re: qualifier to check for empty toMany

2011-05-12 Thread Fred Wells
Almost but the SQL that get generated isn't right, any one know a way around this error? EvaluateExpression failed: : Next exception:SQL State:S1000 -- error code: 1011 -- msg: The correlation name 'T1' is specified multiple times in a FROM clause Here's my list of qualifiers: EOQualifier q

Re: Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread Ramsey Gurley
On May 12, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Dov Rosenberg wrote: > Depends if you want to make money from your app or not. In either case the > license that you release your app under can't violate the terms of any of the > components included in your app. If you included GPL licensed components – it > would

Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good

2011-05-12 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-05-12 à 11:51, Chuck Hill a écrit : > > On May 12, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > >> >> Le 2011-05-12 à 11:42, Chuck Hill a écrit : >> >>> And the examples _may_ show some coding practices that we would consider >>> bad (I have not looked at them in a long while). The meth

Re: Question: Where/what fails with webobjects 5.4.3 on older system?

2011-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
On May 12, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Greg Brown wrote: > Inquiring minds want to know. > > Assuming one builds a wo 5.4.3 app, with all needed jars bundled in the app, > what would happen if trying to run that bundle of joy on an older jdk 1.5 > system like Tiger? That will be fine as long as you don

Re: Question: Where/what fails with webobjects 5.4.3 on older system?

2011-05-12 Thread John Huss
1.5 is fine, you just have to make sure all your code / libraries are compiled with 1.5 as the target. John On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Greg Brown wrote: > Inquiring minds want to know. > > Assuming one builds a wo 5.4.3 app, with all needed jars bundled in the > app, what would happen if

Question: Where/what fails with webobjects 5.4.3 on older system?

2011-05-12 Thread Greg Brown
Inquiring minds want to know. Assuming one builds a wo 5.4.3 app, with all needed jars bundled in the app, what would happen if trying to run that bundle of joy on an older jdk 1.5 system like Tiger? What fails? the adapter interface? Java is java so in one sense it should work, but there are

Re: Re: Tr: Re: Re: Fetching on 2 EOMODELS using different schema in DATABASE with but have relationship

2011-05-12 Thread naneon . raymond
Hi, I want just a filter t0.id = t1.etuId to restrict the results, that's all. thanks Message du : 12/05/2011 De : "Henrique Gomes " A : "WebObjects webobjects-dev" Copie à : naneon.raym...@neuf.fr Sujet : Re: Tr: Re: Re: Fetching on 2 EOMODELS using

Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good

2011-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
On May 12, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > > Le 2011-05-12 à 11:42, Chuck Hill a écrit : > >> And the examples _may_ show some coding practices that we would consider bad >> (I have not looked at them in a long while). The method of EC locking, I >> think, was one of them. That sai

Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good

2011-05-12 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-05-12 à 11:42, Chuck Hill a écrit : > And the examples _may_ show some coding practices that we would consider bad > (I have not looked at them in a long while). The method of EC locking, I > think, was one of them. That said, they do show useful and correct aspects > of WO programmi

Re: Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread Dov Rosenberg
Depends if you want to make money from your app or not. In either case the license that you release your app under can't violate the terms of any of the components included in your app. If you included GPL licensed components – it would be a violation of the GPL license to charge money for your

Re: Tr: Re: Re: Fetching on 2 EOMODELS using different schema in DATABASE with but have relationship

2011-05-12 Thread Henrique Gomes
Are you trying to restrict the results by filtering on a related table? Or just want to fetch data from more than one table? Fetches in WO are always from ONE entity (table). EOF uses joins to FILTER, not to add data to the result. If your entity A has a toMany relation to entity B, A will have

Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good

2011-05-12 Thread Chuck Hill
And the examples _may_ show some coding practices that we would consider bad (I have not looked at them in a long while). The method of EC locking, I think, was one of them. That said, they do show useful and correct aspects of WO programming. Chuck On May 12, 2011, at 3:57 AM, Kieran Kelleh

Re: Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-05-12 à 11:37, David LeBer a écrit : > > On 2011-05-12, at 11:32 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > >> >> Le 2011-05-12 à 11:29, Klaus Berkling a écrit : >> >>> I have a conference app that's nearly ready to make public as an example >>> app, I just have to remove some information specific t

Re: Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread John Huss
Read this. Here's a snippet: "Two years later, we are nearing 100,000 projects hosted on Google Code. The trend around licensing is obvious: GPLv2/GPLv3 represent 42.6% of the projects, and Apache is 25.8%

Re: Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread David LeBer
On 2011-05-12, at 11:32 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > > Le 2011-05-12 à 11:29, Klaus Berkling a écrit : > >> I have a conference app that's nearly ready to make public as an example >> app, I just have to remove some information specific to the conference it >> was developed for. >> It does even

Re: Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-05-12 à 11:29, Klaus Berkling a écrit : > I have a conference app that's nearly ready to make public as an example app, > I just have to remove some information specific to the conference it was > developed for. > It does events, sessions, invitations, email notifications, etc. > > Hav

Re: Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread John Huss
The Apache license is one of the most permissive, which is good for example code. John On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Klaus Berkling wrote: > I have a conference app that's nearly ready to make public as an example > app, I just have to remove some information specific to the conference it >

Making code available & license (was Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good)

2011-05-12 Thread Klaus Berkling
I have a conference app that's nearly ready to make public as an example app, I just have to remove some information specific to the conference it was developed for. It does events, sessions, invitations, email notifications, etc. Having not done this before, what's a good license to make it ava

Re: database design patterns for the desperate

2011-05-12 Thread Michael Gargano
I work on reporting apps against a warehouse, so I have to straddle the line between objects and things people load in the backend and report off of directly. On May 11, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Mark Wardle wrote: > Can you re-imagine your problem as objects instead of thinking of the > database or

Re: Re: Re: Tr: Re: Re: Fetching on 2 EOMODELS using different schema in DATABASE with but have relationship

2011-05-12 Thread naneon . raymond
Hi all, I could fix my problem of *Distinct* with this line: ds.fetchSpecification (). setUsesDistinct (true); Then I added to my ERXBatchingDisplayGroup fetchEtudiantViaUvDg.setDataSource (ds); the fetch is done so with disctint. Now I try to do a qualifier which is a join between *indiv

Re: Re: Tr: Re: Re: Fetching on 2 EOMODELS using different schema in DATABASE with but have relationship

2011-05-12 Thread naneon . raymond
Yep, the relation exist in my modeler. The relation toOne and sometime toMany. Message du : 12/05/2011 De : "Henrique Gomes " A : "WebObjects webobjects-dev" Copie à : Sujet : Re: Tr: Re: Re: Fetching on 2 EOMODELS using different schema in DATABASE w

Re: Tr: Re: Re: Fetching on 2 EOMODELS using different schema in DATABASE with but have relationship

2011-05-12 Thread Henrique Gomes
On May 12, 2011, at 11:44 AM, naneon.raym...@neuf.fr wrote: > The another problem is how to set qualifier to do natural join like : > A.id = B.id, when I don't have parameters for my qualifier? Is that relation modeled in Entity Modeler? The qualifier to use will depend if the relation is toO

Re: Tr: Re: Re: Fetching on 2 EOMODELS using different schema in DATABASE with but have relationship

2011-05-12 Thread Henrique Gomes
On May 12, 2011, at 11:44 AM, naneon.raym...@neuf.fr wrote: > > My problem is this fetch don't use *disctinct* and I have several time the > same student. Simple? fetchEtudiantViaUvDg.setUsesDistinct(true); See: http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Refere

Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good

2011-05-12 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-05-12 à 06:57, Kieran Kelleher a écrit : > They _should_ work fine, and would be useful for learning some of the basics. > They probably require a little bit of set-up. Someday when one of us has > time, we should probably cleanup those up and suck them into a "ready to run" > github r

Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good

2011-05-12 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-05-12 à 01:06, Kevin Spake a écrit : > Are the webobjects examples that are installed by the Apple webobjects543.dmg > any good? That is, are they broken, or overly dependent on deprecated code > etc.? What might be a better way to explore working code from projects of > limited comple

Re: Examles from apple webobjects 5.4.3 any good

2011-05-12 Thread Kieran Kelleher
They _should_ work fine, and would be useful for learning some of the basics. They probably require a little bit of set-up. Someday when one of us has time, we should probably cleanup those up and suck them into a "ready to run" github repository. Meanwhile Wonder has an examples folder too tha

Re: Re: Tr: Re: Re: Fetching on 2 EOMODELS using different schema in DATABASE with but have relationship

2011-05-12 Thread naneon . raymond
Hi Chuck, I change my mind and go to try ERXBatchingDisplayGroup with a qualifier I built (see below) I translate my fetch spec qualifier: nom like $nom or prenom like $prenom or indivId = $numero or etuInscrAdms.diplomec like $etuInscrAdms.diplomec or (etuInscrAdms.anUniv like $etuIn

Re: AjaxObserveField Update Error

2011-05-12 Thread Raghavender Bokka
Thanks Ted, the issue got resolved. Due to conflict with the JQuery and Project Wonder Javascripts this issue was getting. I have resolved this conflict error and I am able to see the Ajax Updates. Regards, Raghu. On 12-May-2011, at 2:07 AM, Theodore Petrosky wrote: > yes, but who is updat