ERAttachement and Video Transcode

2011-09-26 Thread Jesse Tayler
Someone recently implemented a video transcoder using ERAttachment and file upload? Perhaps using SCALA to fork tasks from WO? I'm looking for advice and experience on the topic if anyone has recently done or has something to say ___ Do not post a

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Chuck Hill
Just one, but they have to be from Iceland On Sep 26, 2011, at 2:28 PM, "Beatty, Daniel D CIV NAVAIR, 474300D" wrote: > Greetings Philip, > Chuck only needs one certification, but it seems that the certifiers are all > pass out during the evaluation. We can't understand it. How many bottl

RE: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Beatty, Daniel D CIV NAVAIR, 474300D
Greetings Philip, Chuck only needs one certification, but it seems that the certifiers are all pass out during the evaluation. We can't understand it. How many bottles of Guinness does it take to make a certification? Dan -Original Message- From: webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.bea

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Philippe Rabier
Ho I love that. I don't have any certification :-) Philippe Sent from my iPhone On 26 sept. 2011, at 20:37, Chuck Hill wrote: > > And I tend to be cautious about people with too many certifications. Passing > tests makes you a good student, not a good developer. > > > Chuck > > -- > Chu

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Paul Yu
That Crazy Manager Paul... ;) Very proud of you, Paula. Paul On Sep 26, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Paula Loehr wrote: > As a front end applications developer of a WO application, when I transferred > to our WO project 4 years ago, I didn’t know WO at all. I came from a PC > background, so for that m

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread David Holt
Nice story! Thanks for sharing. David On 2011-09-26, at 1:04 PM, Paula Loehr wrote: > As a front end applications developer of a WO application, when I transferred > to our WO project 4 years ago, I didn’t know WO at all. I came from a PC > background, so for that matter I didn’t know the MA

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Paula Loehr
As a front end applications developer of a WO application, when I transferred to our WO project 4 years ago, I didn¹t know WO at all. I came from a PC background, so for that matter I didn¹t know the MAC world at all (all my PC friends told me I had transferred over to the dark side. I agree and

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Chuck Hill
On 2011-09-26, at 4:48 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > > We have to make WO "cool" again, so that means a new "WO in 5 minutes" > presentation, a presentation tailored for iOS people, etc., and a > presentation without some ugly French Canadian accent in it. I thought that was your sexy French Canad

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Chuck Hill
On 2011-09-24, at 11:38 AM, Marius Soutier wrote: > Hi there, > > I know this a difficult and opinionated topic, but I have been asked by a > friend what technology to choose for a Lean Startup (= 3 months until the > first minimum viable product). While he and I know WebObjects quite well, I

WOWODC 2012 survey

2011-09-26 Thread Pascal Robert
Good afternoon, I created a small (4 questions) feedback survey for WOWODC 2012. Basically, I want to know who is planning to attend the EOF boot camp and/or the "regular" WOWODC, and who wants to present. I'm also asking for 4 different dates (multi-selection, please mark down all dates when y

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-09-26 à 13:23, Marius Soutier a écrit : > But there are also good programmers who don't want to use WebObjects. They > are interested, but they don't want to do it all-day long. They prefer stuff > like Sinatra, Clojure, and so on, which gives them more freedom of choice on > how to so

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Marius Soutier
But there are also good programmers who don't want to use WebObjects. They are interested, but they don't want to do it all-day long. They prefer stuff like Sinatra, Clojure, and so on, which gives them more freedom of choice on how to solve their problems. On 26.09.2011, at 19:19, Paul Yu wrot

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread David Holt
On 2011-09-26, at 10:19 AM, Paul Yu wrote: > Great programmers will always write great code. > > Great programmers will write great code faster with great tools. Then there's that class of programmers that write great tools, THEN write great code with them :-) > > Bad programmers will alway

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Paul Yu
Great programmers will always write great code. Great programmers will write great code faster with great tools. Bad programmers will always complain that it is not them, but the tools fault. Bad Managers will trump them all... On Sep 26, 2011, at 1:14 PM, David LeBer wrote: > > On 2011-09-2

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread David Holt
On 2011-09-26, at 10:14 AM, David LeBer wrote: > > On 2011-09-26, at 1:05 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote: > >> >> On Sep 26, 2011, at 3:57 AM, Jim Kinsey wrote: >> >>> The last time I did any interviewing for developers, we ended up with some >>> devs who really did not want to engage with WO on an

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread David LeBer
On 2011-09-26, at 1:05 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote: > > On Sep 26, 2011, at 3:57 AM, Jim Kinsey wrote: > >> The last time I did any interviewing for developers, we ended up with some >> devs who really did not want to engage with WO on any level, no matter how >> they came across in the interview

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Ramsey Gurley
On Sep 26, 2011, at 3:57 AM, Jim Kinsey wrote: > The last time I did any interviewing for developers, we ended up with some > devs who really did not want to engage with WO on any level, no matter how > they came across in the interview. Years of complaining about WO, misusing it > in ways whi

Re: creating first framework

2011-09-26 Thread Paul Yu
I've learned to set the connection dictionary in the Properties.[myUsername] file of the Application not the model framework for development. Then in production or test environments, set them in /etc/WebObjects/AppInstanceName/Properties file. Paul On Sep 26, 2011, at 11:46 AM, David Holt wrot

Re: creating first framework

2011-09-26 Thread Ramsey Gurley
On Sep 26, 2011, at 3:28 AM, Theodore Petrosky wrote: > thanks Paul and George, > > So here are my steps based on information gleaned from your replies. > > 1. Create new Wonder Framework. This framework is special in that it contains > no Application nor DirectAction nor Session java classes.

Re: creating first framework

2011-09-26 Thread David Holt
On 2011-09-26, at 3:28 AM, Theodore Petrosky wrote: > thanks Paul and George, > > So here are my steps based on information gleaned from your replies. > > 1. Create new Wonder Framework. This framework is special in that it contains > no Application nor DirectAction nor Session java classes. >

Re: Golipse installs Eclipse 3.7

2011-09-26 Thread David LeBer
Golipse build 12 with Pascal's fix for this is available for download now. On 2011-09-26, at 7:55 AM, Kai Lochbaum wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for the update. > > But the script fails to install because the update site for mechanics has > changed. See: > http://blatherberg.wordpress.com/2011/09/24

Documentation Task Force meeting TODAY

2011-09-26 Thread Pascal Robert
Good morning everyone, We are holding a Documentation Task Force meeting today at 11am EST (GMT -4). If you want to help on WO, Project Wonder and WOLips documentation, please meet us at: https://www1.gotomeeting.com/join/373262168 Thanks. ___ Do

Re: Bundle loading during unit testing outside Eclipse

2011-09-26 Thread Paul Hoadley
Hi Marius, On 23/09/2011, at 5:29 PM, Marius Soutier wrote: > Paul, are you depending on the bundle when building from Hudson? For me this > property only mattes inside of Eclipse because I'm working bundle-less (which > is much more compatible with other plug-ins). I run the unit tests inside

Re: Golipse installs Eclipse 3.7

2011-09-26 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-09-26 à 07:55, Kai Lochbaum a écrit : > Hi, > > thanks for the update. > > But the script fails to install because the update site for mechanics has > changed. See: > http://blatherberg.wordpress.com/2011/09/24/new-home-for-the-workspace-mechanic-update-sites/ "The old repositories wi

Re: Golipse installs Eclipse 3.7

2011-09-26 Thread Pascal Robert
I will update it. Eclipse 3.7.1 was also released last week (with support for Java 1.7), so we will probably need to update that too. > Hi, > > thanks for the update. > > But the script fails to install because the update site for mechanics has > changed. See: > http://blatherberg.wordpress.co

Re: Golipse installs Eclipse 3.7

2011-09-26 Thread Kai Lochbaum
Hi, thanks for the update. But the script fails to install because the update site for mechanics has changed. See: http://blatherberg.wordpress.com/2011/09/24/new-home-for-the-workspace-mechanic-update-sites/ Regards, Kai Lochbaum Am 19.09.11 01:43, schrieb David LeBer: All, Thanks to some

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-09-26 à 07:36, Paul Yu a écrit : > My experience with hiring programmers. > > Type 1: Chasing after the next job. The only reason that they want your job > is so it prepares them for their next job. They want the acronyms of the day > to beef up their resume. These guys usually hav

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-09-26 à 06:57, Jim Kinsey a écrit : > The last time I did any interviewing for developers, we ended up with some > devs who really did not want to engage with WO on any level, no matter how > they came across in the interview. Years of complaining about WO, misusing it > in ways which

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Paul Yu
My experience with hiring programmers. Type 1: Chasing after the next job. The only reason that they want your job is so it prepares them for their next job. They want the acronyms of the day to beef up their resume. These guys usually have a lot of acronyms and certifications on their resu

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Marius Soutier
On 26.09.2011, at 12:57, Jim Kinsey wrote: > experienced JEE types who have all the certs under the Sun Nice one! :) I agree with you, people who know Java well and have at least basic Cocoa / CocoaTouch exp should be able to grasp WO rather quickly. I'll check out the Community Talk now, th

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Jim Kinsey
There was a project here that used Cayenne a while ago, but it didn't gain much traction. Often thought that was a shame! On 26 Sep 2011, at 12:05, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > > On Sep 26, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Jim Kinsey wrote: > >> Sadly, I am no longer using WO professionally and only maintain an

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Sep 26, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Jim Kinsey wrote: > Sadly, I am no longer using WO professionally and only maintain an interest > for a side project. As for what happened on my last team, the new devs got > their way and the system was ported to Hibernate. Amusingly, this is still > not in produc

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Jim Kinsey
The last time I did any interviewing for developers, we ended up with some devs who really did not want to engage with WO on any level, no matter how they came across in the interview. Years of complaining about WO, misusing it in ways which hurt the performance of the system (as the last remain

Community Talk slides from WOWODC

2011-09-26 Thread Pascal Robert
I think I didn't sent the link to the Community Talk slides from WOWODC 2011... Anyway, the slides give a good overview of the community: http://wocommunity.org/podcasts/wowodc/2011/slides/CommunityTalk.pdf It's a good companion to the "Finding WO people for startups" thread. -- Pascal Rober

Re: creating first framework

2011-09-26 Thread Theodore Petrosky
thanks Paul and George, So here are my steps based on information gleaned from your replies. 1. Create new Wonder Framework. This framework is special in that it contains no Application nor DirectAction nor Session java classes. 2. Add a .eomodeld file for the database. if using the properties

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Sep 26, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > Andrus, I have to ask a legal question: since people say Cayenne is EOF-like, > does Cayenne is clean of EOF patents? I am answering this question following what wise people elsewhere in the open source world advise to do in this case: I hav

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-09-26 à 03:59, Andrus Adamchik a écrit : > > On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Alexander Spohr wrote: > >> Am 26.09.2011 um 07:39 schrieb John Huss: >> >>> Cayenne + Tapestry >> >> We tried it some years ago (it might have evolved) in a larger project >> (customer did not want WO) but it

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Alexander Spohr wrote: > Am 26.09.2011 um 07:39 schrieb John Huss: > >> Cayenne + Tapestry > > We tried it some years ago (it might have evolved) in a larger project > (customer did not want WO) but it was not ready. And every new release broke > some APIs... Ca

Re: Finding WO people for startups

2011-09-26 Thread Alexander Spohr
Am 26.09.2011 um 07:39 schrieb John Huss: > Cayenne + Tapestry We tried it some years ago (it might have evolved) in a larger project (customer did not want WO) but it was not ready. And every new release broke some APIs... Back to Marius' question: As WO evolved from Cocoa you could try to