Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-06 Thread David Sanchez
My humble opinion, All WO technology, should be integrated into something that I would like to call: /web "slash web" David Sánchez On Sep 6, 2006, at 8:26 PM, James Cicenia wrote: WOOD Web Objects Oriented Development lol On Sep 6, 2006, at 6:59 PM, Ricardo Strausz wrote: dire

About some links I would like to see in objectstyle.org

2006-08-29 Thread David Sanchez
that, and I do not know how the objectstyle.org website operates, so I am not completely sure what I can do to help. I would really love to help any way I can to improve WO community and documents. David Sanchez P.S. One of the interesting and amusing things I found with that paper is

Re: Direct to Java Client and WOLips

2006-08-28 Thread David Sanchez
Thank you, I will try it as soon as I can, David Sanchez On Aug 28, 2006, at 4:20 PM, David Avendasora wrote: David, I have not yet tried to create a Java Client (Direct or Non-direct) from scratch in WOLips, but it is very easy to create one in XCode and migrate it to Eclipse/WOLips

Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06

2006-08-28 Thread David Sanchez
On Aug 28, 2006, at 5:05 PM, Paul Lynch wrote: On 28 Aug 2006, at 18:29, David Sanchez wrote: I think you are forgetting .NET which has wonderful tools and it is tightly integrated with SQL Server and Windows 2000. The latter is a good reason not to use it. And yet, I am being biased

Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06

2006-08-28 Thread David Sanchez
On Aug 28, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Aug 28, 2006, at 10:32 AM, David Sanchez wrote: Hallo! It is also well-known that Apple does not want to open source WO. But, if Apple does not plan to open WO, IT HAS to re-write documentation. No, it doesn't. Please stop making

Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06

2006-08-28 Thread David Sanchez
programmers can die, jump to other platform or quit programming. So, if that's the case, Apple strategy for WO is just let it die. David Sanchez I think there is close to zero (very close to zero ;-) chance that Apple will rewrite any of the WebObjects documentation to include the open s

Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06

2006-08-28 Thread David Sanchez
Hello! I think you are forgetting .NET which has wonderful tools and it is tightly integrated with SQL Server and Windows 2000. WO+Tiger can compete against .NET+Windows 2000, it is cheaper, faster, easier and more elegant. But the tools in .NET are completely integrated, very fast and

Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06

2006-08-28 Thread David Sanchez
Thank you, Finding out that would have been almost impossible by myself. David Sanchez On Aug 28, 2006, at 9:35 AM, David Avendasora wrote: David, Look in this file /System/Library/Frameworks/ JavaWebObjects.framework/Resources/License.key Cliff from Apple (he shows up on the list

Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06

2006-08-28 Thread David Sanchez
my commitment: Once I can get my issue with D2JC figured out (see awakeFromInsertion thread), I will begin re- implementing the exercises from WO Desktop Applications examples using WOlips and put them on the Wiki. Hello! That would be REALLY excellent for new comers. I do n

Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06

2006-08-28 Thread David Sanchez
hard to work under for a newbie as myself. I'd be happy to help in anyway I can if you have questions on Java Client. There's very few of us out there using it. On Aug 26, 2006, at 12:33 PM, David Sanchez wrote: Where? All the docs I have read are updated to 5.3.somethin

Is it possible to do this in WOLips?

2006-08-26 Thread David Sanchez
Hi! Starting with my early sessions with WOLips, I have not found the option: create a "Direct to Java Client Application (Three Tier)". I have only found WOApplication, Direct To Web Application. Is it possible to do it on WOLips? Dav

Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06

2006-08-26 Thread David Sanchez
Hello David and everyone again, Four people is too small. ThinkSecret is a rumor site, they could have this number or the entire rumor about WebObjects wrong. AppleInsider posted a similar rumor one year ago and nothing happened back then... http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=113

Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06

2006-08-26 Thread David Sanchez
Well, it is good to know, at least I am not the only one who has these love/hate relationship with Apple. Thank you for the welcome, I read also the post. Very funny indeed. David Sanchez David, [Disclaimer: Following is a fun weekend rant, skip it if you are not in the mood for it] Of

Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06

2006-08-26 Thread David Sanchez
The tools will be here for a while. What I recommend is, do some pet-project with Apple tools. After you gain some familiarity and understand the basic concepts, fully move to WOLips. For example, I use WOLips but I still use the old WO Builder and EOModeler. You have time to make a smo

Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06

2006-08-26 Thread David Sanchez
On Aug 26, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Paul Lynch wrote: On 26 Aug 2006, at 16:04, David Sanchez wrote: On Aug 26, 2006, at 6:31 AM, Paul Lynch wrote: On 26 Aug 2006, at 09:19, David Sanchez wrote: Looking into J2EE, Cayenne/Tapestry can compete with WO? No. Integration in a framework and the

Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06

2006-08-26 Thread David Sanchez
On Aug 26, 2006, at 6:31 AM, Paul Lynch wrote: On 26 Aug 2006, at 09:19, David Sanchez wrote: Looking into J2EE, Cayenne/Tapestry can compete with WO? No. Integration in a framework and the quality of its tools count for a lot (and are usually undercredited). I do not understand this

Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06

2006-08-26 Thread David Sanchez
On Aug 26, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote: Hi! On 2006/08/26, at 09:12, David Sanchez wrote: Of course they do. But for how long? Besides, any time Apple can just stop them to work with no prior notice. Also, it means there is no bug fixing, no support and no updated

Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06

2006-08-26 Thread David Sanchez
th area under the present circumstances, no matter what features they add. Wonderful tool, bad prospects. Better to look at Ruby on Rails if you're a technology lover or j2ee if you're a practical guy. Jim On Aug 25, 2006, at 9:26 PM, David Sanchez wrote: Hi! I am new to WebObjects and new in the

Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06

2006-08-26 Thread David Sanchez
On Aug 25, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Dustin Withers wrote: Hello! :) I think I got the worse time to learn WebObjects. All the tutorials in the Apple Web Site are referring to deprecated apps like EOModeler, and most of the books out there talk about them too. The tools are deprecated but you c

Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06

2006-08-25 Thread David Sanchez
w the new tools first and then deprecate the old ones? Thank you, David Sanchez Message: 2 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:37:18 -0300 From: Karl Gretton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06 To: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Mes