Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread Andrew Lindesay
Hi Mike; Given how close "mod_balancer" is to the traditional WO deployment, it might be a nice approach for "mod_balancer" to take on-board the few additional concepts necessary to support something which works like "JavaMonitor / wotaskd" so that deploying a WO system does not need a sp

Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread Mike Schrag
Given how close "mod_balancer" is to the traditional WO deployment, it might be a nice approach for "mod_balancer" to take on-board the few additional concepts necessary to support something which works like "JavaMonitor / wotaskd" so that deploying a WO system does not need a special Apach

Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread Andrew Lindesay
Hi Mike; I spent a bit of time on this a few years ago and developed (and open- sourced) an AJP WO adaptor (AJP is a binary stream for HTTP used widely with Jetty and Tomcat deployment) to work with the built-in Apache 2.2 mod_balancer / mod_ajp / mod_proxy / mod_???. It worked really wel

Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread Guido Neitzer
On 8. Jul. 2009, at 15:09 , Mike Schrag wrote: seriously? I remember the exact inverse statements being made when, only four-ish years ago, they tied WO's release schedule back into the main development tools. I think it's good news, but hopefully it means that they'll stop developing their

Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread Chuck Hill
On Jul 8, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: seriously? I remember the exact inverse statements being made when, only four-ish years ago, they tied WO's release schedule back into the main development tools. I think it's good news, but hopefully it means that they'll stop developing thei

Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread Mike Schrag
seriously? I remember the exact inverse statements being made when, only four-ish years ago, they tied WO's release schedule back into the main development tools. I think it's good news, but hopefully it means that they'll stop developing their unnecessary deployment that virtually nobody u

Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread Guido Neitzer
On Jul 8, 2009, at 5:46 AM, William Hatch wrote: seriously? I remember the exact inverse statements being made when, only four-ish years ago, they tied WO's release schedule back into the main development tools. I think it's good news, but hopefully it means that they'll stop developing the

Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread Chuck Hill
Hi Bill, On Jul 8, 2009, at 10:16 AM, William Hatch wrote: On Jul 8, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Jul 8, 2009, at 5:46 AM, William Hatch wrote: On Jul 8, 2009, at 7:04 AM, David Avendasora wrote: Yeah, this is really good news. Now that WO releases won't be tied to OS X and Xcode

Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread William Hatch
Yes, all of our applications are deployed in a J2EE container 6% Yes, some of our applications are deployed in a J2EE container 20% No, we never deploy applications in a J2EE environment 74% Yes, absolutely, and preaching to the choir is doing nothing for us all.

Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread William Hatch
Bill On Jul 8, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Jul 8, 2009, at 5:46 AM, William Hatch wrote: On Jul 8, 2009, at 7:04 AM, David Avendasora wrote: Yeah, this is really good news. Now that WO releases won't be tied to OS X and Xcode releases, I'm betting we'll see far more frequ

Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 09-07-08 à 12:32, Miguel Arroz a écrit : Hi! On 2009/07/08, at 17:14, Mark Morris wrote: ??? I'd guest that the majority of WO projects are deployed like this. Servlet deployment is a distant second. Chuck I'm glad someone else said it. I thought perhaps I was just out of touch!

Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread Mike Schrag
Yeah, this is really good news. Now that WO releases won't be tied to OS X and Xcode releases, I'm betting we'll see far more frequent releases of updates to the frameworks. seriously? I remember the exact inverse statements being made when, only four-ish years ago, they tied WO's release s

Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread Miguel Arroz
Hi! On 2009/07/08, at 17:14, Mark Morris wrote: ??? I'd guest that the majority of WO projects are deployed like this. Servlet deployment is a distant second. Chuck I'm glad someone else said it. I thought perhaps I was just out of touch! -- Mark Surveys say so, I think. Pascal?

Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Morris
On Jul 8, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Jul 8, 2009, at 5:46 AM, William Hatch wrote: On Jul 8, 2009, at 7:04 AM, David Avendasora wrote: Yeah, this is really good news. Now that WO releases won't be tied to OS X and Xcode releases, I'm betting we'll see far more frequent rele

Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread Chuck Hill
On Jul 8, 2009, at 5:46 AM, William Hatch wrote: On Jul 8, 2009, at 7:04 AM, David Avendasora wrote: Yeah, this is really good news. Now that WO releases won't be tied to OS X and Xcode releases, I'm betting we'll see far more frequent releases of updates to the frameworks. seriously? I

Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread William Hatch
On Jul 8, 2009, at 7:04 AM, David Avendasora wrote: Yeah, this is really good news. Now that WO releases won't be tied to OS X and Xcode releases, I'm betting we'll see far more frequent releases of updates to the frameworks. seriously? I remember the exact inverse statements being made wh

Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread David Avendasora
On Jul 8, 2009, at 7:04 AM, David Avendasora wrote: Yeah, this is really good news. Now that WO releases won't be tied to OS X and Xcode releases, I'm betting we'll see far more frequent releases of updates to the frameworks. And OS X Software Update won't mess with your production install

Re: A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread David Avendasora
Yeah, this is really good news. Now that WO releases won't be tied to OS X and Xcode releases, I'm betting we'll see far more frequent releases of updates to the frameworks. Dave On Jul 8, 2009, at 3:51 AM, Paul Stringer wrote: Wow doesn't happen often but WebObjects getting a mention in th

A WebObjects article on Appleinsider

2009-07-08 Thread Paul Stringer
Wow doesn't happen often but WebObjects getting a mention in the Mac press. It's remarking on the dropping of WebObjects deployment from Snow Leopard Server (not like it matters WOInstaller does the job fine). WOLips gets a mention too nice!. D.E. Dilger really seems to like to give a menti