Re: A final note

2007-10-29 Thread Lachlan Deck
On 30/10/2007, at 1:07 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: Not only that, but pro-WOBs / anti-WOLs keep talking like the current state is the forever state. Anyone who follows WOLips knows that story is far from over ... Just a week or two ago we had the WOB-ish Display Group editor submitted, which is

Re: A final note

2007-10-29 Thread Ian Joyner
On 30/10/2007, at 12:27 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote: Hi there, On 30/10/2007, at 11:34 AM, Ken Foust wrote: To this Great Community: For seasoned developers the passing of WO is not a big deal. Passing? 5.4 just came out. However for novice and part timers it is like a tragedy. There doesn

Re: A final note

2007-10-29 Thread Alan Ward
my thoughts exactly I've got 8 years of 'splainin' to do :-) Alan On Oct 29, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: For seasoned developers the passing of WO is not a big deal. If WO is dead, then my wife really deserves an explanation of what I've been up to all these months. ms _

Re: A final note

2007-10-29 Thread Mike Schrag
Well, it is what it is. Can't be helped now. But there's still a lot of help available... I'd say even more than before. If you need a visual editor, then there are numerous gui html editors out there that could serve you well. Granted, they'll not be an integrated solution. Not only that,

Re: A final note

2007-10-29 Thread Mike Schrag
For seasoned developers the passing of WO is not a big deal. If WO is dead, then my wife really deserves an explanation of what I've been up to all these months. ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mai

Re: A final note

2007-10-29 Thread Lachlan Deck
Hi there, On 30/10/2007, at 11:34 AM, Ken Foust wrote: To this Great Community: For seasoned developers the passing of WO is not a big deal. Passing? 5.4 just came out. However for novice and part timers it is like a tragedy. There doesn't see to be a solution out there that was so comp

Re: A final note

2007-10-29 Thread Chuck Hill
On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:22 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote: On 29.10.2007, at 19:01, Alan Ward wrote: When did WO die? Years ago. Only nobody noticed ... Bring out your dead, bring out your dead. -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObj

Re: A final note

2007-10-29 Thread Guido Neitzer
On 29.10.2007, at 19:01, Alan Ward wrote: When did WO die? Years ago. Only nobody noticed ... cug, zombieing around ... ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.co

Re: A final note

2007-10-29 Thread Alan Ward
Ken, When did WO die? Alan On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:57 PM, Q wrote: The rumors of WO's death have been greatly exaggerated. There may be a changing of the guard when it comes to the development tools, but WO is most certainly still with us. On 30/10/2007, at 10:34 AM, Ken Foust wrote: T

Re: A final note

2007-10-29 Thread Q
The rumors of WO's death have been greatly exaggerated. There may be a changing of the guard when it comes to the development tools, but WO is most certainly still with us. On 30/10/2007, at 10:34 AM, Ken Foust wrote: To this Great Community: For seasoned developers the passing of WO is n

A final note

2007-10-29 Thread Ken Foust
To this Great Community: For seasoned developers the passing of WO is not a big deal. However for novice and part timers it is like a tragedy. There doesn't see to be a solution out there that was so complete. You could just buy Joshua Marker's book, build something and even make it fu