Re: Getting a project started right

2007-05-09 Thread Lachlan Deck
Hi there, On 10/05/2007, at 1:13 AM, Robert Walker wrote: I actually do agree with you. It is very odd to have WebObjects delivered and installed by Xcode, with project templates provided within Xcode, to produce applications that you can't (reasonably) build using Xcode. True - but to

Re: Getting a project started right

2007-05-09 Thread Robert Walker
Just to clarify, everything in my previous post is pure speculation. I have no idea of Apple's future plans for Java in, or outside of, Xcode. All I know for sure is what has been made public, such as the deprecation of the Java bridge, WOBuilder, etc. After a re-read of my previous post

Re: Getting a project started right

2007-05-09 Thread Ken Anderson
SIGN ME UP! :) On May 9, 2007, at 11:13 AM, Robert Walker wrote: At the risk of starting another flame war, I'd love to see WebObjects divorced from Java. I'd love to see Apple take their old WebObjects Obj-C code base, enhance it to take full advantage of Objective C 2.0, and make it fea

Re: Getting a project started right

2007-05-09 Thread Robert Walker
Aaron, I actually do agree with you. It is very odd to have WebObjects delivered and installed by Xcode, with project templates provided within Xcode, to produce applications that you can't (reasonably) build using Xcode. I completely agree with Apple's strategy for divorcing WebObjects

Re: Getting a project started right

2007-05-09 Thread Aaron Thompson
All I mean is that the Apple-provided documentation still uses XCode and the old tools, but the new way to go is with Eclipse/WOLips, which confused me at first because I didn't know where to begin. Aaron Thompson On May 9, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Ken Anderson wrote: Aaron, Actually, we have a

Re: Getting a project started right

2007-05-09 Thread Ken Anderson
Aaron, Actually, we have a more clear strategy now than we've had in years. What part of the strategy is not clear? Ken On May 9, 2007, at 9:50 AM, Aaron Thompson wrote: Thanks to everyone who replied! This'll get me started off right. I wish Apple would be more clear about their stra

Re: Getting a project started right

2007-05-09 Thread Aaron Thompson
Thanks to everyone who replied! This'll get me started off right. I wish Apple would be more clear about their strategy. Aaron Thompson On May 8, 2007, at 5:17 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote: On 08.05.2007, at 14:54, Aaron Thompson wrote: I've been looking around and I can't find any kind of gui

Re: Getting a project started right

2007-05-08 Thread Lachlan Deck
Hi Aaron, On 09/05/2007, at 6:54 AM, Aaron Thompson wrote: I'm new to this listserve and to WebObjects. Welcome! I'm about to start building a decent-sized webapp and I'd like to use WO. I've been looking around and I can't find any kind of guide to show me the preferred way to develop w

Re: Getting a project started right

2007-05-08 Thread Robert Walker
Aaron, First welcome to WebObjects and the mailing list. My first recommendation of where to start is here: http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Home Since you are just getting started, begin your development with Eclipse/WOLips. WebObjects development will not be well support

Re: Getting a project started right

2007-05-08 Thread Guido Neitzer
On 08.05.2007, at 14:54, Aaron Thompson wrote: I've been looking around and I can't find any kind of guide to show me the preferred way to develop webapps using XCode, with split installs and Apache and such. There is no preferred way of building an application with Xcode anymore. The too