On 20.11.2008, at 16:35, Mike Schrag wrote:
I'd say it takes too long if you need to learn for yourself. One
should either get training or work in a shop where it's used.
I 100% agree with this. WO is a little bit mind-bending, in a cool
way, if you're coming from most other frameworks. It
Welcome Bob,
FWIW, I had education/experience in C, Fortran77 and some other
languages and zero Java knowledge when I learned by myself circa 2003
(I had no training funds unfortunately), *however*, IIRC, the things
that made it easier to learn were:
1) Watching/studying the WebObjects WWD
+1
:-)
On 20-Nov-08, at 7:40 AM, David LeBer wrote:
Having said that, it is possible to learn on your own. I did. Just
expect to spend a fair amount of time staring at the contents of
WODev posts waiting for the lightbulbs to go off.
___
Do not
Or, shameless plug, one can buy the WOWODC recordings :-) Too bad
the recording of Guido and Jay session at WWDC 2008 is not available
standalone, you have to buy the whole IT track to get the session.
Of course, you should buy the WOWODC recordings regardless of your
expertise level :)
ms
On 20-Nov-08, at 10:23 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
Patiente, a lot of it. WO is not something you can learn in a few
weeks or even months.
I'll challenge this one ... For "mastery," sure, but we had a new
senior level guy (with a Java/Hibernate/J2EE background) comfortably
writing WO apps withi
Or, shameless plug, one can buy the WOWODC recordings :-) Too bad the
recording of Guido and Jay session at WWDC 2008 is not available
standalone, you have to buy the whole IT track to get the session.
But I agree it's harder to learn it if you don't have anyone near you
who can help you ou
I'd say it takes too long if you need to learn for yourself. One
should either get training or work in a shop where it's used.
I 100% agree with this. WO is a little bit mind-bending, in a cool
way, if you're coming from most other frameworks. It's very useful to
have someone who knows what
I'd say it takes too long if you need to learn for yourself. One
should either get training or work in a shop where it's used.
Cheers, Anjo
Am 20.11.2008 um 16:23 schrieb Mike Schrag:
Patiente, a lot of it. WO is not something you can learn in a few
weeks or even months.
I'll challenge this
Patiente, a lot of it. WO is not something you can learn in a few
weeks or even months.
I'll challenge this one ... For "mastery," sure, but we had a new
senior level guy (with a Java/Hibernate/J2EE background) comfortably
writing WO apps within a few weeks. We had two junior guys that were
Hi!
On 2008/11/20, at 13:36, Bob Gordon wrote:
Hello,
I have been reading about WebObjects, and decided it was worth
looking into further.
That's a smart decision. :) WO looks old-school and hard to learn,
but it's actually a very strong framework, very well conceived, and it
easily
Hello Bob,
Hello,
I have been reading about WebObjects, and decided it was worth
looking into further.
Where to begin?
http://www.wocommunity.org/getting_started_with_webobjects.html
What would be the best book for a novice (does know Java)?
You need Java knowledge, but you don't nee
Hello,
I have been reading about WebObjects, and decided it was worth looking into
further.
Where to begin?
What would be the best book for a novice (does know Java)?
Are new projects being done with WebObjects (is there a future)?
Any other suggestions?
Thank you.
-Bob
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