Hello Andrew (et al.),
Thanks for your post.
On 14/08/2006, at 4:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
of the framework and tools. Tools like WOBuilder, EOModeler, and
other tools lead such experienced developers so far and then drop
them off a cliff.
I have to disagree with you.
And I would h
C'mon! I have some experience doing open source development and if I
learned one thing from that, it would be that I am not allowed to
complain, while the users are born with this right :-)
There are different categories of users too. Certainly there are
troll whose only purpose in life is
Hello Ashley;
of the framework and tools. Tools like WOBuilder, EOModeler, and
other tools lead such experienced developers so far and then drop
them off a cliff.
I have to disagree with you. As I said before, I am involved in a
large sophisticated project and we use WOBuilder for all of o
On 13/08/2006, at 3:16 AM, Anjo Krank wrote:
IMO, you need to be pretty good with Java, SQL, HTML and CSS to
make it worth the effort to learn WO in the first place...
So true.
WO (like most other Enterprise Web development environments) is not
for "business developers" or "newbies". It
What someone could also look into - if she was a halfway
experienced SWT developer - is check out Spindle, the editor for
Tapestry and see if that is more adaptable than the WST we
currently use.
I was also wondering if the FireFox platform might provide some
good support for HTML editing
2006/8/12, Anjo Krank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
This is not me. Certainly not! I am a paragon of patience and manners!
Short-tempered. Tsk.
In other news, pigs have now learned to fly at ultrasonic speeds...
Cheers,
Ceph
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Am 12.08.2006 um 23:17 schrieb Chuck Hill:
Anjo the Cranky? :-)
Huh? You dont mean this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cranky
As a result, he often blames his short-temper on waiting for "slow,
little engines"
This is not me. Certainly not! I am a paragon of patience and manners!
Hi Anjo,
On Aug 12, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
I'd really like to know why I didn't get the mail you were replying
to. I have to check our mail admin on monday.
I don't think I did either. I often see answers to messages when I
never see the question. I think the problem is at
Hi Mike,
I'd really like to know why I didn't get the mail you were replying
to. I have to check our mail admin on monday.
Am 12.08.2006 um 21:28 schrieb Mike Schrag:
I had a MUCH larger response to Robert's blog post carefully
crafted this morning before I got on the plane, but decided no
I had a MUCH larger response to Robert's blog post carefully crafted
this morning before I got on the plane, but decided not to send it
and I spent several hours thinking about it before I ended up with
the response you saw, where I explicitly tried to NOT be defensive/
insulting/whatever.
Oh, once in a while. ;-)
On Aug 12, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Am 12.08.2006 um 20:42 schrieb Chuck Hill:
What?!!? You mean it has not been irrelevant for the last
several years?
Chuck, has anyone ever bothered to tell you that you are a cynic?
Cheers, Anjo
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Am 12.08.2006 um 20:42 schrieb Chuck Hill:
What?!!? You mean it has not been irrelevant for the last several
years?
Chuck, has anyone ever bothered to tell you that you are a cinic?
Cheers, Anjo
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Am 12.08.2006 um 19:11 schrieb Timmy:
I've fortunately received training from two Apple engineers. I was
trained on XCode and WOBuilder. I understand the complaints about
them - but they're home. I once installed Eclipse/WOLips because I
was using Practical WebObjects as a reference. I hav
On Aug 12, 2006, at 11:14 AM, Arturo Pérez wrote:
This is a seriously dangerous attitude. As us old-timers fade away
due to retirement et al then WO will slide into irrelevance.
What?!!? You mean it has not been irrelevant for the last several
years?
:-P
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Coming sometime... - an
On Aug 12, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Apart from the fact that new people should think trice about using
WO in the first place.
This is a seriously dangerous attitude. As us old-timers fade away
due to retirement et al then WO will slide into irrelevance.
Of course, by then
On Aug 12, 2006, at 8:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 12, 2006, at 7:52 AM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Also, this WYSWIG thing is totally overrated and mainly only
useful for beginners, as you see exactly nothing once your
components get a bit more complex.
Anjo, I mostly agree with you bu
Am 12.08.2006 um 17:48 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm not suggesting you run out and build this yourself, but I'd
like to encourage those who like this functionality to consider
it. Even if it only worked f or simple stuff, to be used as a
teaching tool, I think it would be beneficial.
Hello,
We, just like you folks, are under no obligation to support open
source initiatives, we all do >so for many different reasons but with
this kind of attitude from this particular community >we certainly
will no longer even try.
While the replies' tone may sound a little grumpy [and I und
On Aug 12, 2006, at 7:52 AM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Also, this WYSWIG thing is totally overrated and mainly only
useful for beginners, as you see exactly nothing once your
components get a bit more complex.
Anjo, I mostly agree with you but I'd like to offer this thought:
When I first worked t
On Aug 11, 2006, at 7:38 PM, Robert Walker wrote:Hi all,I did some experimenting with WOProject/WOLips today. I posted my impressions on my blog page in case anyone is interested. I'd love to hear your feedback.Here's the link:http://web.mac.com/robertwalker1/iWeb/Site/Welcome.html -- I feel you
Am 12.08.2006 um 14:56 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Well, a couple of hours ago I added my thoughts to Robert's blog.
Frankly, this is a *mailing list* - if people have to say something
valuable, they should say it, let us discuss it here, and not make us
read and comment on that stuff exte
Anjo,
>>
You people should be ashamed of yourself.
We certainly welcome enhancements, fixes, or even only ideas, but you
must be aware that all the work currently rests on a very small
amount of people and they *will* simply stop when the amount of
signal to noise progresses to the worse.
The
Welcome to the new world of WebObjects,
yes you too can try out this fabulous new technology, offer an
opinion and be insulted.
Anjo and Mike, what you don't know is the that organization that
Robert works for is (sorry make that was) a big supporter of and
contributor to a number of open
Am 12.08.2006 um 13:22 schrieb Mike Schrag:
My feedback would be to a) join the list and make some official and
specific requests for enhancements, b) contribute to the project
and help fix some of these complaints you have, or c) don't use it.
What he said, only not as nicely:
While I ca
My feedback would be to a) join the list and make some official and specific requests for enhancements, b) contribute to the project and help fix some of these complaints you have, or c) don't use it.msOn Aug 11, 2006, at 10:38 PM, Robert Walker wrote:Hi all,I did some experimenting with WOProject/
Hi all,I did some experimenting with WOProject/WOLips today. I posted my impressions on my blog page in case anyone is interested. I'd love to hear your feedback.Here's the link:http://web.mac.com/robertwalker1/iWeb/Site/Welcome.html --Robert Walker[EMAIL PROTECTED]There are 10 types of people in
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