Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Theodore Petrosky
. --- On Thu, 5/2/13, Pascal Robert wrote: > From: Pascal Robert > Subject: Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available > To: "David LeBer" > Cc: "WebObjects Development" > Date: Thursday, May 2, 2013, 11:03 AM > > Le 2013-05-02 à 10:57, David LeBer

Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Patrick Abuzeni, MD
Jesse, I am certain that no one, you included, would give out your code for free in the interest of growing your business. If that were true, I am sure this community and others would follow in those footsteps. I have full confidence in the community leaders that they know what they are doing. T

Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2013-05-02 à 10:57, David LeBer a écrit : > It's a tough decision. > > Running the community is not free, there are cost involved and the only > revenue we have it the memberships. Early access to the videos is a > significant incentive to purchasing them. > > The pessimist in me says tha

Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread David LeBer
It's a tough decision. Running the community is not free, there are cost involved and the only revenue we have it the memberships. Early access to the videos is a significant incentive to purchasing them. The pessimist in me says that the ship has sailed on enlarging the community to any great

Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Pascal Robert
>> >> why are we keeping videos private until they are a year old? >> >> they should be published right away so people can use them. And the hosting of WOCommunity.org and other things will magically be paid by magic? I had stopped working for ONE MONTH last year to work on my WOWODC presentat

Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Jesse Tayler
indeed, I can see they are valued and keeping things private has its place. I'm certain my membership is paid up to date, as are my tickets to the event, however- I would not find that a neighborly thing to grow community myself, is all. since I'm not in charge of the community, this is of c

Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread David LeBer
Jesse, Members have full immediate access, and memberships are not expensive. D -- David LeBer Codeferous Software On 2013-05-02, at 10:13 AM, Jesse Tayler wrote: > > why are we keeping videos private until they are a year old? > > they should be published right away so people can use them.

Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Jesse Tayler
why are we keeping videos private until they are a year old? they should be published right away so people can use them. On May 2, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > Looks like I forgot two presentations: > > • Persistent Session Storage > • Security and performance design

Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Pascal Robert
Looks like I forgot two presentations: • Persistent Session Storage • Security and performance designs for client-server communications I'm adding them right now. > As we do every year just before the "current" WOWODC, we released the > recordings from the previous WOWODC to ma

All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Pascal Robert
As we do every year just before the "current" WOWODC, we released the recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. Presentations: • COScheduler in Depth • Apache FTP Server Integration • CMS / Blog and SnoWOman • Practical ERSync

"Dynamic Elements" recording from WOWODC 2012

2013-02-03 Thread Pascal Robert
Johann Werner's presentation about dynamic elements is now available for everyone. A transcript is also available in the wiki (http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Transcripts). ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be igno

WOWODC 2012 recordings

2012-08-31 Thread Pascal Robert
Hello everyone, If you have a valid (and paid) WOCommunity Membership account, you can now access the WOWODC 2012 recordings! It includes the following presentations: - Apache FTP Server Integration - COScheduler in Depth - Dynamic Elements - WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond - ERRest

Re: WOWODC-2012 Git presentations

2012-07-14 Thread Alexis Tual
Thanks that's a great presentation ! 2012/7/13 Kieran Kelleher > FYI, > > If you are new to git. > > The first 3 parts of the 5-part series derived from the "Understanding & > Using Git" WOWODC2012 presentation is available in this iTunes feed: > > http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/webo

Re: WOWODC-2012 Git presentations

2012-07-13 Thread WebObjects TORAcom
Thanks On 13/07/2012, at 06:21, Kieran Kelleher wrote: > FYI, > > If you are new to git. > > The first 3 parts of the 5-part series derived from the "Understanding & > Using Git" WOWODC2012 presentation is available in this iTunes feed: > >http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/webobjects

Re: WOWODC-2012 Git presentations

2012-07-13 Thread Ted Archibald
Yay! On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 5:21 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: > FYI, > > If you are new to git. > > The first 3 parts of the 5-part series derived from the "Understanding & > Using Git" WOWODC2012 presentation is available in this iTunes feed: > > http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/webobje

WOWODC-2012 Git presentations

2012-07-13 Thread Kieran Kelleher
FYI, If you are new to git. The first 3 parts of the 5-part series derived from the "Understanding & Using Git" WOWODC2012 presentation is available in this iTunes feed: http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/webobjects-podcasts/id270165303 or at the bottom of this web page: http://ww

Slides from WOWODC 2012

2012-07-07 Thread Pascal Robert
Hello everyone, The slides from WOWODC 2012 have been uploaded on SlideShare (http://www.slideshare.net/wocommunity/) and in the podcasts feed on WOCommunity.org (and iTunes). So far, most recordings seems to be ok, so they will be available to paid members when my poor Early 2008 MacBook Pro

Re: WOWODC 2012 photos

2012-07-04 Thread Chuck Hill
> >> >> >> Regards, Kieran. >> (Sent from my iPhone) >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Aaron Rosenzweig >>> Date: July 4, 2012 10:31:12 AM EDT >>> To: Kieran Kelleher >>> Subject: He

Re: WOWODC 2012 photos

2012-07-04 Thread Pascal Robert
t; >> From: Aaron Rosenzweig >> Date: July 4, 2012 10:31:12 AM EDT >> To: Kieran Kelleher >> Subject: Help me post to the list >> >> Hi Kieran, >> >> I'm not able to post to the WOWODC 2012 list, it's getting rejected. Can you >&g

Fwd: WOWODC 2012 photos

2012-07-04 Thread Kieran Kelleher
Regards, Kieran. (Sent from my iPhone) Begin forwarded message: > From: Aaron Rosenzweig > Date: July 4, 2012 10:31:12 AM EDT > To: Kieran Kelleher > Subject: Help me post to the list > > Hi Kieran, > > I'm not able to post to the WOWODC 2012 list, it's g

[WOWODC 2012] some photos from WOWODC2012

2012-07-02 Thread ISHIMOTO Ken
Hi, Here are some Pics. https://picasaweb.google.com/116113711532230835739/WOWODC2012 Thank you Ken Ishimoto K's ROOM [E-Mail] [iChat:] [HP] http://www.ksroom.com

Re: WOWODC 2012 and Project Wonder Boot Camp tickets now on sale!

2012-04-17 Thread Pascal Robert
BTW, just to make things clear: with a Boot Camp tickets, you also get access to the last two days for WOWODC (+ the recordings for the sessions from the first day of WOWODC). > Hello everyone, > > I'm please to inform the community that you can now register for WOWODC 2012 >

Re: WOWODC 2012 and Project Wonder Boot Camp tickets now on sale!

2012-04-11 Thread Pascal Robert
lease to inform the community that you can now register for WOWODC 2012 > and the Project Wonder Boot Camp! We have a solid roster of presentations, > and we will announce a couple more in the next 3 weeks. > > You can get all the details about tickets, content and everything

WOWODC 2012 and Project Wonder Boot Camp tickets now on sale!

2012-04-11 Thread Pascal Robert
Hello everyone, I'm please to inform the community that you can now register for WOWODC 2012 and the Project Wonder Boot Camp! We have a solid roster of presentations, and we will announce a couple more in the next 3 weeks. You can get all the details about tickets, content and everything

Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-06 Thread Kieran Kelleher
Regards, Kieran. (Sent from my iPhone) On Apr 6, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Daniel Beatty wrote: > Greetings Kieran, > Well this Gitolite sounds like an excellent tool. It is. If I can fit it in I will cover gitolite at WOWODC since it is free and available to all. > Although, there are employer

Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-06 Thread Daniel Beatty
Greetings Kieran, Well this Gitolite sounds like an excellent tool. Although, there are employers that have paranoia for a good reason. Some have been burned, others are paid to have this paranoia, and others just simply work some national government. Whatever the excuse is, there seems to be

Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-06 Thread Johann Werner
Am 05.04.2012 um 21:35 schrieb Pascal Robert: > Yup, gitolite is your friend. Another alternative working really well is gitosis [1]. [1] https://github.com/tv42/gitosis > >> Ricardo >> >> I have setup my own (or I should say Pascal did) git repository on my own >> server. Works really we

Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-05 Thread Kieran Kelleher
Gitolite makes it easy to administer many repositories with less effort that just basic setup for a single repo. Also allows a basic level of control over what users can and cannot do on specific repositories. Regards, Kieran. (Sent from my iPhone) On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Ted Archibald w

Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-05 Thread Kieran Kelleher
On Apr 5, 2012, at 2:38 PM, "Ricardo J. Parada" wrote: > > > Basic / typical commands for forking wonder, cloning it, contributing back. > ;-) > > How about the equivalent of svn:externals to integrate Wonder into our > employer's git repository... Or maybe the command for checking out a

Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-05 Thread Pascal Robert
Gitolite users are "virtual" users and virtual permissions, so no need to give them SSH access to the box. > What's the advantage gitolite offers? I was reading up on it and I didn't > get. What's the difference between a git server VS a computer just running > git with ssh keys? > > On Thu,

Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-05 Thread Ted Archibald
What's the advantage gitolite offers? I was reading up on it and I didn't get. What's the difference between a git server VS a computer just running git with ssh keys? On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > I would add: > > stashes : damn useful to try options without committi

Re: WOWODC 2012 tickets

2012-04-05 Thread Lon Varscsak
So I'm choosing to hear that the new price is $5US…that is awesome! ;) -Lon On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > Since I had people asking me about tickets sale, they will go on sale next > week. Please note that the Web site said (until yesterday) that it was $480 > in Cana

WOWODC 2012 tickets

2012-04-05 Thread Pascal Robert
Since I had people asking me about tickets sale, they will go on sale next week. Please note that the Web site said (until yesterday) that it was $480 in Canadian dollars, but we will have to use a bank account in US dollars, so we had to change the currency to USD and the price go up by $5 for

Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-05 Thread Pascal Robert
I would add: stashes : damn useful to try options without committing it. You can stash your tests, try something else, stash that something else, and get back to the first stash if you didn't like your work on the second stash. post commit hooks (never tried those except in a GitHub context

Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-05 Thread Pascal Robert
Yup, gitolite is your friend. > Ricardo > > I have setup my own (or I should say Pascal did) git repository on my own > server. Works really well. > > -- > Paul Yu > Sent with Sparrow > > On Thursday, April 5, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote: > >> >> >> Basic / typical commands f

Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-05 Thread Paul Yu
Ricardo I have setup my own (or I should say Pascal did) git repository on my own server. Works really well. -- Paul Yu Sent with Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig) On Thursday, April 5, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote: > > > Basic / typical commands for forking wonde

Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-05 Thread Ricardo J. Parada
Basic / typical commands for forking wonder, cloning it, contributing back. ;-) How about the equivalent of svn:externals to integrate Wonder into our employer's git repository... Or maybe the command for checking out a particular version of Wonder in time for building our apps and qa agains

Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-03 Thread Ted Archibald
Since I just switched over, I'd be curious to know which is better: multiple large repositories with many projects (ala Wonder) or an individual repository for each project. When I converted over from svn I went with the former than the latter, and it seems fine. Different workflows, what you do

Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-03 Thread David Holt
Best practices for setting up repositories. One project per? All projects in one? Dealing with forks and making pull requests to Wonder Jenkins :-) Sent from my iPad On 2012-04-03, at 3:39 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: > Following Chuck's lead what would you like to get out of the "Usin

Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-03 Thread Kieran Kelleher
Following Chuck's lead what would you like to get out of the "Using Git" session . what are the problems you are facing in the git world? I have already done an outline of my session content, but would definitely try to accommodate any requests also. Feel free to respond to this em

Re: WOWODC 2012: first list of topics!

2012-04-03 Thread probert
Soon. Envoyé de mon iPhone Le 2012-04-03 à 17:10, "Jesse Tayler" a écrit : > Are we able to purchase tickets yet? > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:31 PM, David Holt wrote: > >> This is coming together nicely. Good work Pascal! >> >> David >> >> >> On 2012-04-03, at 12:20

Re: WOWODC 2012: first list of topics!

2012-04-03 Thread Jesse Tayler
Are we able to purchase tickets yet? Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:31 PM, David Holt wrote: > This is coming together nicely. Good work Pascal! > > David > > > On 2012-04-03, at 12:20 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> The first list of confirmed WOWODC topics is

Re: WOWODC 2012: first list of topics!

2012-04-03 Thread David Holt
This is coming together nicely. Good work Pascal! David On 2012-04-03, at 12:20 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > Hello everyone, > > The first list of confirmed WOWODC topics is now online! > > http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc12/topics.html > > I think we have a great list of topics, and more top

WOWODC 2012: first list of topics!

2012-04-03 Thread Pascal Robert
Hello everyone, The first list of confirmed WOWODC topics is now online! http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc12/topics.html I think we have a great list of topics, and more topics will be added before the end of April. See you in June! -- Pascal __

WOWODC 2012 Schedule

2012-03-24 Thread Pascal Robert
Good evening everyone, To help you plan your trip to WOWODC 2012, the schedule will look like this: http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc12/schedule.html See you in June! -- Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca AIM/iChat : MacTICanada LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/macti Twitter

Re: WOWODC 2012 App

2012-03-01 Thread David Avendasora
nfos on your iPhone? > > Here you are go with the iPhone to : > > http://band.cat/wowodc2012 > > and download your App. > > * Infos to WOWODC 2012 > * WO Icon on your Screen^^ > > > > Thank you > > Ken Ishimoto > &g

WOWODC 2012 App

2012-03-01 Thread ISHIMOTO Ken
Hi, Would you like to have WOWODC Infos on your iPhone? Here you are go with the iPhone to : http://band.cat/wowodc2012 and download your App. * Infos to WOWODC 2012 * WO Icon on your Screen^^ Thank you Ken Ishimoto K's

Re: WOWODC 2012 teaser

2012-02-24 Thread Chuck Hill
On 2012-02-24, at 4:39 AM, David LeBer wrote: > Grumble, curse, grumble. > > (No WOWODC for me this year) WHAT?!!? > > -- > David LeBer > Codeferous Software > > On 2012-02-20, at 7:52 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > >> Sure Ramsey, go ahead and make the rest of us look bad! >> >> That is going

Re: WOWODC 2012 teaser

2012-02-23 Thread David LeBer
Grumble, curse, grumble. (No WOWODC for me this year) -- David LeBer Codeferous Software On 2012-02-20, at 7:52 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > Sure Ramsey, go ahead and make the rest of us look bad! > > That is going to be one very interesting session. Expect questions! :-) > > > On 2012-02-20, a

Re: WOWODC 2012 teaser

2012-02-22 Thread Chuck Hill
Sure Ramsey, go ahead and make the rest of us look bad! That is going to be one very interesting session. Expect questions! :-) On 2012-02-20, at 7:31 AM, Ramsey Gurley wrote: > Coming soon… definitely don't miss WOWODC this year :-) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDnwUHaQ9rQ > > Ramsey

Re: WOWODC 2012 teaser

2012-02-22 Thread Pascal Robert
And for people who don't follow wowodc on Twitter (if you are a Twitter user, you should follow wowodc!), you can get a list of proposed presentations (well, propositions is a big world, all propositions made so far have been approved) here: http://wocommunity.org/apps/WebObjects/WOWODC.woa/r

WOWODC 2012 teaser

2012-02-19 Thread Ramsey Gurley
Coming soon… definitely don't miss WOWODC this year :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDnwUHaQ9rQ Ramsey ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubsc

Reminder: WOWODC 2012 Call for Papers

2012-01-19 Thread Pascal Robert
A friendly reminder for your friendly WOWODC organizer. We need more people to present at WOWODC 2012! You can see the list of topics and suggestions here: http://wocommunity.org/apps/WebObjects/WOWODC.woa/ra/sessions/listPapers.html Don't forget, WOWODC 2012 is June 30, July 1st and 2nd

Re: EOF Boot Camp and WOWODC 2012

2011-10-17 Thread Ken Anderson
I can only make the July dates next year - so that's my vote! I'll probably drag along someone from work to attend as well. On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > Ok, so some news about WOWODC 2012. Like I said before, we want to do a Boot > Camp before WOWODC

Re: WOWODC 2012 hotel and pricing

2011-10-11 Thread Pascal Robert
t; ITHQ Hotel: > > http://www.ithq.qc.ca/en/hotel/ > > The ITHQ is our culinary/tourism school (one of the best in the world), and > unknown to me, they also have a hotel (42 rooms) and conference rooms. So I > made my choice, and WOWODC 2012 will be there. Rate is $139 C

Re: WOWODC 2012 hotel and pricing

2011-10-11 Thread Pascal Robert
eryone, >>>> >>>> Since the Gouverneur don't do their "Stay at the Hotel" promo anymore, and >>>> they raised their prices again, I looked for alternatives, and I found the >>>> ITHQ Hotel: >>>> >>>>http:/

Re: WOWODC 2012 hotel and pricing

2011-10-11 Thread Pascal Robert
for alternatives, and I found the >> ITHQ Hotel: >> >> http://www.ithq.qc.ca/en/hotel/ >> >> The ITHQ is our culinary/tourism school (one of the best in the world), and >> unknown to me, they also have a hotel (42 rooms) and conference rooms. So I >&

Re: WOWODC 2012 hotel and pricing

2011-10-11 Thread Kieran Kelleher
; ITHQ Hotel: >>> >>> http://www.ithq.qc.ca/en/hotel/ >>> >>> The ITHQ is our culinary/tourism school (one of the best in the world), and >>> unknown to me, they also have a hotel (42 rooms) and conference rooms. So I >>> made my choice,

Re: WOWODC 2012 hotel and pricing

2011-10-11 Thread Chuck Hill
thq.qc.ca/en/hotel/ > > The ITHQ is our culinary/tourism school (one of the best in the world), and > unknown to me, they also have a hotel (42 rooms) and conference rooms. So I > made my choice, and WOWODC 2012 will be there. Rate is $139 CAD for a regular > room (single occup

Re: WOWODC 2012 hotel and pricing

2011-10-11 Thread Pascal Robert
re, and >> they raised their prices again, I looked for alternatives, and I found the >> ITHQ Hotel: >> >> http://www.ithq.qc.ca/en/hotel/ >> >> The ITHQ is our culinary/tourism school (one of the best in the world), and >> unknown to me, they also have a hote

Re: WOWODC 2012 hotel and pricing

2011-10-11 Thread Kieran Kelleher
t; they raised their prices again, I looked for alternatives, and I found the > ITHQ Hotel: > > http://www.ithq.qc.ca/en/hotel/ > > The ITHQ is our culinary/tourism school (one of the best in the world), and > unknown to me, they also have a hotel (42 rooms) and conference r

WOWODC 2012 hotel and pricing

2011-10-11 Thread Pascal Robert
the world), and unknown to me, they also have a hotel (42 rooms) and conference rooms. So I made my choice, and WOWODC 2012 will be there. Rate is $139 CAD for a regular room (single occupancy), and they are really nice rooms. But what's the best thing? It's right on St-Denis Street!!

WOWODC 2012 sponsorship and call for papers

2011-10-10 Thread Pascal Robert
Good morning (and good holiday to all Canadians), I updated the WOWODC site for details about sponsorship and call for papers for WOWODC 2012. If you wish to present or sponsor the event, have a look! http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc12/ Thanks. -- Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca LinkedIn

WOWODC 2012 and Boot Camp official dates!

2011-09-30 Thread Pascal Robert
Good afternoon everyone, The WOWODC 2012 dates are now official! It will be held from June 30 to July 2. It was the preferred period for people who answered the surveys, hence the choice. We will also have the WO Boot Camp from June 28 to June 30. Paul Lynch of P&L Software, one of the

WOWODC 2012 survey

2011-09-26 Thread Pascal Robert
Good afternoon, I created a small (4 questions) feedback survey for WOWODC 2012. Basically, I want to know who is planning to attend the EOF boot camp and/or the "regular" WOWODC, and who wants to present. I'm also asking for 4 different dates (multi-selection, please mark down

Re: EOF Boot Camp and WOWODC 2012

2011-09-21 Thread James Cicenia
I always take a vacation end of June - July 10th ish. So please make it in August or September. Thanks James On Sep 20, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > Ok, so some news about WOWODC 2012. Like I said before, we want to do a Boot > Camp before WOWODC. That boot camp would

Re: EOF Boot Camp and WOWODC 2012

2011-09-20 Thread Chuck Hill
ww.ithq.qc.ca/en/hotel/reunion-et-evenement/reunion-et-evenement.php) > and they don't have space for those dates, but if the June dates are what > people prefer, we can stay at the Gouverneur again. > >> Ok, so some news about WOWODC 2012. Like I said before, we want to do a Boot &

Re: EOF Boot Camp and WOWODC 2012

2011-09-20 Thread Pascal Robert
hose dates, but if the June dates are what people prefer, we can stay at the Gouverneur again. > Ok, so some news about WOWODC 2012. Like I said before, we want to do a Boot > Camp before WOWODC. That boot camp would be all about EOF, since without a > good EOF, including modeling, you

EOF Boot Camp and WOWODC 2012

2011-09-20 Thread Pascal Robert
Ok, so some news about WOWODC 2012. Like I said before, we want to do a Boot Camp before WOWODC. That boot camp would be all about EOF, since without a good EOF, including modeling, you will have problems using the rest of WO, especially for ERRest and D2W. It might also include information

Re: WOWODC 2012

2011-08-04 Thread Chuck Hill
On 2011-08-03, at 12:35 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > What? Already? Does this guy is crazy? I don't think that is a question any longer. :-P > > Anyway, just to let you know, WOWODC 2012 will probably June 29th, June 30th > and July 1st 2012, in Montreal again. So talk t

WOWODC 2012

2011-08-03 Thread Pascal Robert
What? Already? Does this guy is crazy? Anyway, just to let you know, WOWODC 2012 will probably June 29th, June 30th and July 1st 2012, in Montreal again. So talk to your boss, your spouse and the kids, and let them come to WOWODC in 2012! We're thinking of doing a WO BootCamp the days b