Re: [websec] Frame embedding: One problem, three possible specs?

2011-07-23 Thread Tobias Gondrom
Hi all, sorry for the late answer, a flu and some other duties kept me from answering so far. I agree with Thomas, Adam and David, so please go ahead with the webappsecwg charter. The current plan for #3 is to be adopted in websec (as http headers should be done in IETF) and proceed within

Re: [websec] Frame embedding: One problem, three possible specs?

2011-07-12 Thread Thomas Roessler
So, looking at this thread, here's what I suggest for the webappsecwg charter: We keep the deliverable in there, but make it very clear that the group should liaise particularly closely with websec "and other IETF work around framing policy" (or some such), explicitly to avoid conflicting or com

Re: [websec] Frame embedding: One problem, three possible specs?

2011-07-07 Thread Hill, Brad
The latest draft of the WebAppSec charter includes a secure cross-domain framing mechanism as a distinct deliverable from the CSP, it's relation is only in proposing re-use of same browsing context capability grammar as CSP. So retaining option #1 is not in conflict with dropping frame-ancestor

Re: [websec] Frame embedding: One problem, three possible specs?

2011-07-07 Thread David Ross
#3 is a narrowly scoped effort to standardize something that works pretty well today in practice (X-FRAME-OPTIONS). A conflict with CSP would be bad, but per Adam it seems like overlap is looking less likely. So proceeding down the current path on #3 sounds good to me. David Ross dr...@micros

Re: [websec] Frame embedding: One problem, three possible specs?

2011-07-07 Thread Adam Barth
My sense from talking with folks is that there isn't a lot of enthusiasm for supporting this use case in CSP at the present time. We're trying to concentrate on a core set of directives for the first iteration. If it helps reduce complexity, you might consider dropping option (1) for the time bein

[websec] Frame embedding: One problem, three possible specs?

2011-07-07 Thread Thomas Roessler
(Warning, this is cross-posted widely. One of the lists is the IETF websec mailing list, to which the IETF NOTE WELL applies: http://www.ietf.org/about/note-well.html) Folks, there appear to be at least three possible specifications addressing this space, with similar but different designs: