Re: [websec] Issue #41 add parameter indicating whether to hardfail or not

2012-06-29 Thread Adam Barth
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > On 29/06/2012 17:45, Steingruebl, Andy wrote: >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Alexey Melnikov [mailto:alexey.melni...@isode.com] >>> >>> Maybe this is not a good example, but I am thinking that something like >>> OCSP retrieva

Re: [websec] Issue #41 add parameter indicating whether to hardfail or not

2012-06-29 Thread Alexey Melnikov
On 29/06/2012 17:45, Steingruebl, Andy wrote: -Original Message- From: Alexey Melnikov [mailto:alexey.melni...@isode.com] Maybe this is not a good example, but I am thinking that something like OCSP retrieval failing on the client side is not something that would show up in the webserver

Re: [websec] Issue #41 add parameter indicating whether to hardfail or not

2012-06-29 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Steingruebl, Andy wrote: >> The point of "this is testing" is  the opposite: people who can't talk to >> you because you've configured HSTS in a way inconsistent with your >> actual site posture. >> -Ekr > > Can you give us an example of how/where you think this c

Re: [websec] Issue #41 add parameter indicating whether to hardfail or not

2012-06-29 Thread Steingruebl, Andy
> -Original Message- > From: Alexey Melnikov [mailto:alexey.melni...@isode.com] > > Maybe this is not a good example, but I am thinking that something like > OCSP retrieval failing on the client side is not something that would > show up in the webserver logs. Sure, but doesn't the OCSP s

Re: [websec] Issue #41 add parameter indicating whether to hardfail or not

2012-06-29 Thread Alexey Melnikov
On 29/06/2012 16:10, Steingruebl, Andy wrote: The point of "this is testing" is the opposite: people who can't talk to you because you've configured HSTS in a way inconsistent with your actual site posture. -Ekr Can you give us an example of how/where you think this could occur and how it is

Re: [websec] Issue #41 add parameter indicating whether to hardfail or not

2012-06-29 Thread Steingruebl, Andy
> The point of "this is testing" is the opposite: people who can't talk to you > because you've configured HSTS in a way inconsistent with your > actual site posture. > -Ekr Can you give us an example of how/where you think this could occur and how it is distinct from other ways you could usin

Re: [websec] Issue #41 add parameter indicating whether to hardfail or not

2012-06-29 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:00 AM, =JeffH wrote: > Hi, thanks for your thoughts Yoav, apologies for latency, > >> I guess my issue with this.. > > ..where "this" is denying the user the capability to "click-through" TLS/SSL > errors/warnings in all error cases.. > >> ..is because when I read the dr

Re: [websec] Issue #41 add parameter indicating whether to hardfail or not

2012-06-12 Thread =JeffH
Hi, thanks for your thoughts Yoav, apologies for latency, > I guess my issue with this.. ..where "this" is denying the user the capability to "click-through" TLS/SSL errors/warnings in all error cases.. > ..is because when I read the draft for the first > time, I thought this would be a good

[websec] Issue #41

2012-03-26 Thread Yoav Nir
Hi It was my review that triggered this, so I'd like to explain my position. There are several things that could be considered failures of the TLS layer: 1. Revoked certificate 2. No CRL/OCSP response 3. Expired certificate 4. Expired CRL (yes, I know NextUpdate is not expiry…) 5. Mismatch b