If you want to see another take on Drupal. I'm making a site to do project
management with it.
Http://www.mywebclass.org
login brendan/brendan$1234
All the forms and views of data were generated using the query builder
(views) and the content creator (CCK)
In Drupal you can define field in the
Christian,
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
>> On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
>>
>> We're working on this, but again, it's not a one-person decision here.
>
> Yes, it's not. But those peo
Hi Graham,
On Oct 19, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Graham Lauder wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 Oct 2010 02:16:38 Benjamin Horst wrote:
>> On Oct 19, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Graham Lauder wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 19 Oct 2010 12:39:56 Keith Williams wrote:
>> Yes, I respect Christian, but I don't feel that he is giving thi
Andrea,
On Oct 16, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>> as the question "what cms to choose" now comes up more often, I think
>> it's best to just setup some demo-sites to compare them.
>
> (Oops, my message from last week didn't make it to the list, my fault..
Bernhard,
On Oct 12, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> Hi Per, all,
>
> sorry for stepping in so late, but this community is evolving so quickly that
> you can't keep in track even with the most important tasks.
>
> Per Eriksson schrieb:
>>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I was looking at t
On Oct 19, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Le 2010-10-18 04:37, Andre Schnabel a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> I see that there are lots of discussion, which CMS to use, what features
>> are needed ... at the other hand, users and language teams need more
>> info at our website - nad without the inf
Florian,
On Oct 19, 2010, at 4:58 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> just to jump in: Yesterday night, the new server (which will be used for CMS)
> has been ordered. Should be available today, and I hope to have finished a
> basic installation tomorrow.
Glad to hear the server wi
Le 2010-10-19 18:00, Graham Lauder a écrit :
On Wednesday 20 Oct 2010 10:01:58 Keith Williams wrote:
If you want to drive the site you can login with admin root:
admin/bhorst$1234
Aha Finally, unfortunate that it took so long to get to this point.
The primary discussion here is about admini
On Wednesday 20 Oct 2010 10:01:58 Keith Williams wrote:
> If you want to drive the site you can login with admin root:
>
> admin/bhorst$1234
>
Aha Finally, unfortunate that it took so long to get to this point.
The primary discussion here is about administration of the site, it would have
give
If you want to drive the site you can login with admin root:
admin/bhorst$1234
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Keith Williams <
kwilli...@thoughtfarmproductions.com> wrote:
> Just login to the site, you don't have admin rights, your just a user with
> some perms.
> admin/bhorst$1234 is password
Just login to the site, you don't have admin rights, your just a user with
some perms.
admin/bhorst$1234 is password.
9, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Graham Lauder wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 19 Oct 2010 12:39:56 Keith Williams wrote:
> > >> My opinion...
> > >>
> > >> Basically the only person that seems to w
On Wednesday 20 Oct 2010 02:16:38 Benjamin Horst wrote:
> On Oct 19, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Graham Lauder wrote:
> > On Tuesday 19 Oct 2010 12:39:56 Keith Williams wrote:
> >> My opinion...
> >>
> >> Basically the only person that seems to want silverstripe is Christian.
> >> I think there are 3-4 peo
I posted this in wrong thread:
One reason I really like Drupal is that with the fusion base theme, you
really don't need to know ANY PHP to get most layouts / designs. While
knowing PHP would let you do more. I design themes. You can just point
firebug at spots and change the theme. In the adm
Le 2010-10-19 16:22, Keith Williams a écrit :
The other specs are very basic but lead to something like
Silverstripe. Drupal of course does them
But it can do a lot more. If the project just wants a top down cms
and no users beyond some admins then that is not that interesting to
me. I also th
Le 2010-10-19 16:16, Keith Williams a écrit :
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Evaluation_of_CMS_Platforms
Is the above spec the actual spec you're trying to meet??
It actually says Drupal groups and Drupal has integration with SVN/GIT/CVS
so you can see bugs issues and patches on the
The other specs are very basic but lead to something like
Silverstripe. Drupal of course does them
But it can do a lot more. If the project just wants a top down cms
and no users beyond some admins then that is not that interesting to
me. I also think it's a rather limited view of what you can d
On Oct 19, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Keith Williams wrote:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Evaluation_of_CMS_Platforms
>
> Is the above spec the actual spec you're trying to meet??
>
> It actually says Drupal groups and Drupal has integration with SVN/GIT/CVS
> so you can see bugs issues a
Le 2010-10-19 16:12, Keith Williams a écrit :
One reason I really like Drupal is that with the fusion base theme, you
really don't need to know ANY PHP to get most layouts / designs. While
knowing PHP would let you do more. I design themes. You can just point
firebug at spots and change the th
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Evaluation_of_CMS_Platforms
Is the above spec the actual spec you're trying to meet??
It actually says Drupal groups and Drupal has integration with SVN/GIT/CVS
so you can see bugs issues and patches on the web. It works great.
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at
One reason I really like Drupal is that with the fusion base theme, you
really don't need to know ANY PHP to get most layouts / designs. While
knowing PHP would let you do more. I design themes. You can just point
firebug at spots and change the theme. In the admin UI you can setup
fixed/float
Le 2010-10-19 15:58, Benjamin Horst a écrit :
Hi Marc,
On Oct 19, 2010, at 3:25 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-10-19 14:32, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
So, seeing that we have been put on a deadline for the pick of a CMS (and if it
hasn't been picked by the community, the SC will pick it for
Hi Marc,
On Oct 19, 2010, at 3:25 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Le 2010-10-19 14:32, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
>
> So, seeing that we have been put on a deadline for the pick of a CMS (and if
> it hasn't been picked by the community, the SC will pick it for us), is there
> any way that you and Dre
Le 2010-10-19 14:32, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
So, seeing that we have been put on a deadline for the pick of a CMS
(and if it hasn't been picked by the community, the SC will pick it for
us), is there any way that you and Drew, if you are agreeable to this,
to draw up a spec sheet that you
> >> * User-Firendly URLs
> >> [...]
> > - Yeah OK - details for any good implementor to be given as part of the
> > task, I don't agree with all the arguments there but I understand them
> > and believe just about any system can be set for that - is it worth the
> > added load on the systems, and
Le 2010-10-19 14:32, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
To clarify what /I/ meant with the requirement:
A user-friendly editor *is* important. A site that forces users to
insert the complete html manually will be no improvement compared to
the OOo website at all.
However I also noted that (in my opini
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Cc: g...@knaddison.com, Benjamin Benjamin Horst , Alex
Giorgi-Coll
Hi David et al,
On Tue,
Hello,
On Oct 19, 2010, at 1:45 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> Hi Benjamin, *,
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
>>
>> What pages will the site include at its launch? Only those currently on the
>> TDF website?
>
> How do you define "at its launch". So yes, when the "si
Hi Drew, *;
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Drew Jensen wrote:
> Quick of the top of my head thoughts, written in line as I read.
>>[...]
>> * Create static pages
>> [...]
>
> - Should the CMS have the ability to interface with a cvs system, used
> to maintain these static pages -
Nonono, the C
Hi,
Hoping this will prompt a memory in someone here (younger I
suppose...lol)
A while back, a good while back, ran across a presentation given by one
of the architects of the Kenai project - he goes into pretty decent
detail on which tool chains where used for the over all site, and how
they put
Sorry - in that last email I am speaking of course of interfacing with a
Versio Contol System and a cvs...
Otherwise - anyone want a page with a table on the wiki with these
things and let folks fill in how one CMS handles that one point
(requirement).
More then just a yes / no - let the two team
Quick of the top of my head thoughts, written in line as I read.
>
>
> [libreoffice-website] CMS requirements / suitability testing
>
> Christian Lohmaier
> Wed, 06 Oct 2010 23:39:10 -0700
>
> Major points any CMS must fulfill:
>
> * Create static pages
> In the past,
Hi Benjamin, *,
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
>
> What pages will the site include at its launch? Only those currently on the
> TDF website?
How do you define "at its launch". So yes, when the "sitch is turned
over" going from the current website to the cms driven websi
Le 2010-10-18 04:37, Andre Schnabel a écrit :
Hi,
I see that there are lots of discussion, which CMS to use, what features
are needed ... at the other hand, users and language teams need more
info at our website - nad without the infrastructure in place we cannot
give more information.
The issu
Le 2010-10-19 12:56, Sigrid Carrera a écrit :
Hi Marc,
2010/10/19 Marc Paré:
Christian,
Where can I find the Silverstripe demo?
I found the following information in the DE-part of the wiki:
Hinweise zur Benutzung von Silverstripe
tips for the usage of silverstripe:
188.40.32.145 de.pumba
Hi Marc,
2010/10/19 Marc Paré :
> Christian,
>
> Where can I find the Silverstripe demo?
I found the following information in the DE-part of the wiki:
Hinweise zur Benutzung von Silverstripe
tips for the usage of silverstripe:
188.40.32.145 de.pumbaa.ooodev.org zur
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts-
Hi Marc, *;
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> [...]
> Where can I find on the TDF the requirement from the SC for CMS choice.
The SC itself didn't create a list of requirements themselves, but refer to
http://www.mail-archive.com/website@libreoffice.org/msg00010.html
and the wi
Le 2010-10-19 11:06, Keith Williams a écrit :
Oh,
In regards to wordpress. WOrdpress is a good system and is easy to use for
a CMS / Blog. Its good for projects that don't need a lot of custom data
driven pages or publishing workflows that extend beyond a single person. In
general, Wordpress
Le 2010-10-19 11:18, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
Hi Marc, *,
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
Where can I find the Silverstripe demo?
The demo is at http://pumbaa.ooodev.org:7780/ - also the
following subsites:
http://sandbox.pumbaa.ooodev.org:7780/ (public playground)
htt
Le 2010-10-19 10:41, Marc Paré a écrit :
Christian,
Where can I find the Silverstripe demo?
Marc
Sorry, me again.
Where can I find on the TDF the requirement from the SC for CMS choice.
Marc
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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Drew Jensen wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 17:30 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>
>> We're talking about setting up a cms for website maintainence, not for
>> a site that hosts news bits or blogs or other bite-sized whatnot.
>> A structured website,
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 17:30 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>
> We're talking about setting up a cms for website maintainence, not for
> a site that hosts news bits or blogs or other bite-sized whatnot.
> A structured website, similar to what www.openoffice.org is now.
>
By similar to oo.o yo
The wysiwyg editor's buttons are set at admin by checking off a box.
The requirements you list are going to make a very boring website.
I'll fix this later
We grow beautiful ideas
On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Christian Lohmaier
wrote:
> Hi Keith,
>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Keith Wil
Hi Keith,
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Keith Williams
wrote:
>
> I basically built the demo to show a couple features like groups, polls,
> etc...
I don't know how many times I wrote it already: No matter what it
could do, at least it must meet the basic requirements first.
> I hoped that s
I'd like to step back and reframe our discussion a bit. We've been in the weeds
comparing CMSs, but we haven't discussed the architecture of the site the CMS
needs to support. I think different expectations of requirements may be why
we've broken into two major camps.
What pages will the site i
Hi Marc, *,
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
>
> Where can I find the Silverstripe demo?
The demo is at http://pumbaa.ooodev.org:7780/ - also the
following subsites:
http://sandbox.pumbaa.ooodev.org:7780/ (public playground)
http://silverbox.pumbaa.ooodev.org:7780/ (staging area
Oh,
In regards to wordpress. WOrdpress is a good system and is easy to use for
a CMS / Blog. Its good for projects that don't need a lot of custom data
driven pages or publishing workflows that extend beyond a single person. In
general, Wordpress is a solid system and nice because it doesn't ne
Thank you, Keith.
I will keep trying to find the time to set up a demo for Christian et al, but
it's very difficult for me to carve out any time right now myself.
I have uploaded some draft wireframes to the wiki:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Evaluation_of_CMS_Platforms
Christia
http://www.mywebclass.org/~bhorst
testuser/testuser$1234
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Keith Williams <
kwilli...@thoughtfarmproductions.com> wrote:
> I updated the Drupal demo with a WYSIWYG editor and you can now create
> pages.
>
> Go to create content on left nav menu and pick what you wa
I updated the Drupal demo with a WYSIWYG editor and you can now create
pages.
Go to create content on left nav menu and pick what you want to make. YOu
will need to select the menu for pages, but all pages created by you show up
in the top data driven page. All pages created by anyone show up in
Christian,
Where can I find the Silverstripe demo?
Marc
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Christian,
I basically built the demo to show a couple features like groups, polls,
etc... I hoped that someone else would put some content on the site at some
point. AND NO I didn't set it up for editors, I guess I could turn on the
WYSIWYG editor and let you make page menus. I just didn't want
Hi *
Am 19.10.2010 15:33, schrieb Benjamin Horst:
> On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Keith Williams wrote:
>> Why don't you just go use wordpress?
> Interesting, someone recommended WordPress early in this discussion but never
> followed up.
Good point, it's actually worth talking about it for it i
Hi Keith,
I apologize beforehand, since the following might sound very
condescending. Please don't take it as such.
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Keith Williams
wrote:
> [...]
> I have been dealing with web based systems for 15 years. I can write in
> python and PHP for web systems and Java
Hi,
2010/10/19 Benjamin Horst :
> On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>> How would I structure the website (remember: The requirement was for a
>> website, wiki or user-forum are sepqrate on purpose)
>
> Why are they separate? Some time last week, Bernhard made the suggestion th
Hi Keith,
Let's the site up at least one day more.
Ok the Wiki editor is a weak point but, I think it could be improved by module.
The node notion should be learned to modify content (admin mode), but all CMS
should be ..
My preference is still Drupal @ the moment
Stan
Le 19/10/2010 15:27, K
I'll keep it up, you seem like a nice guy.
I think the decision has been made by CMSreport and forum posts.
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
> Please keep the site up! No decision has been made yet and I'd like to work
> with it more.
>
> -Ben
>
> On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:27
Hi Benjamin,
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
> On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
>
> We're working on this, but again, it's not a one-person decision here.
Yes, it's not. But those people who w
LOL this whole process is silly to me... I'm being argued with by some guys
based on forum posts and a demo on CMSreport LOL. I'm volunteering to
design a beautiful site that integrates groups, wiki, CMS, and would
basically make your project very attractive for people to participate in
because t
Please keep the site up! No decision has been made yet and I'd like to work
with it more.
-Ben
On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Keith Williams wrote:
> I'll be taking site down by the end of the day.
>
> We grow beautiful ideas
>
> On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Christian Lohmaier
> wrote:
>
>> H
Keith,
This discussion should not become an endurance challenge, where whoever holds
out the longest wins. That's no way to make a good technical decision.
On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Keith Williams wrote:
> Ok. You win, go with Silverstripe, it appears that you already have
> made that deci
On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> How would I structure the website (remember: The requirement was for a
> website, wiki or user-forum are sepqrate on purpose)
Why are they separate? Some time last week, Bernhard made the suggestion that
we could better integrate website a
I'll be taking site down by the end of the day.
We grow beautiful ideas
On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Christian Lohmaier
wrote:
> Hi Keith,
>
> 2010/10/19 Keith Williams :
>>
>> So i spent about 45 minutes on the demo site...
>> [...]
>> The site has groups, polls per group, ratings on discussio
Good luck with silver stripe.
We grow beautiful ideas
On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Christian Lohmaier
wrote:
> Hi Keith,
>
> 2010/10/19 Keith Williams :
>>
>> So i spent about 45 minutes on the demo site...
>> [...]
>> The site has groups, polls per group, ratings on discussions that are
>> tra
Ok. You win, go with Silverstripe, it appears that you already have
made that decision and I don't have the time to devote to this
discussion, since I will not be working with Silverstripe. I really
did look into Silverstripe and the reason you find it clear is that it
doesn't do much and I didn
Hi Keith,
2010/10/19 Keith Williams :
>
> So i spent about 45 minutes on the demo site...
> [...]
> The site has groups, polls per group, ratings on discussions that are
> tracked, and differentiated admin / user roles.
>
> try to login using:
>
> testuser
> testuser$1234
OK, you set up something
On Oct 19, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Graham Lauder wrote:
> On Tuesday 19 Oct 2010 12:39:56 Keith Williams wrote:
>> My opinion...
>>
>> Basically the only person that seems to want silverstripe is Christian. I
>> think there are 3-4 people here that like Drupal in this group.
>
> Add one to Christian
Hi Keith, *,
2010/10/19 Keith Williams :
> [...]
snipped points that have been discussed already.
> Christian:
>
> You're looking at it from a users point of view Thats not reasonable,
> you can make Drupal and I'm sure silverstripe look like anything.
OF COURSE it is reasonable, it's the
Good luck with silver stripe
We grow beautiful ideas
On Oct 19, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Graham Lauder wrote:
> On Tuesday 19 Oct 2010 12:39:56 Keith Williams wrote:
>> My opinion...
>>
>> Basically the only person that seems to want silverstripe is Christian. I
>> think there are 3-4 people here tha
On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
>>
>> You had dropped off the discussion for the past several days, so I wasn't
>> sure if you were still following.
>
> I thought I made it pretty clear that to judge, I want a demo
On Tuesday 19 Oct 2010 12:39:56 Keith Williams wrote:
> My opinion...
>
> Basically the only person that seems to want silverstripe is Christian. I
> think there are 3-4 people here that like Drupal in this group.
>
Add one to Christians Group,
I tried your demo and I also tried the Silverstri
Hi folks,
just to jump in: Yesterday night, the new server (which will be used for
CMS) has been ordered. Should be available today, and I hope to have
finished a basic installation tomorrow.
So, things are moving forward. ;)
Florian
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