g to ensure we maintain the 'sub-page' structure we
currently have on the TDF Wiki.
I will create a new thread on the mailing list to discuss the way
forward with this as clearly both the current approach and the flat
approach are not compatible.
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manage the wiki, shouldn't there be enforcement of the flat
structure by the wiki infrastructure?
How do we go about flattening the existing structure? How do we go
about moving a wiki page to the wiki root?
Does anyone have any ideas/input on this?
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Modification of the installation instructions to reflect the correct file
names.
Sent from my Android phone.
On 03/01/2011 11:11 PM, "Sophie Gautier" wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm currently consolidating an inter projects release tasks table. That
> should help us to know what we have to do, coordinat
there was a decision to upload it to the website.
Can you clarify?
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Silverstripe system and areas which need
work. Could we coordinate this work through a task list in the wiki in
the same way we have done with the Drupal development. It seems to
work quite well :)
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On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:51 PM, David Nelson wrote:
> Hi, :-)
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 18:03, Michael Wheatland
> wrote:
>> David et al, could we get an update on what has been done so far and
>> what needs to be done in your mind.
>
> My take on things that t
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 8:25 PM, David Nelson wrote:
> Hi, :-)
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 18:45, Michael Wheatland
> wrote:
>> I think a 'handback' to the wider website team would be more appropriate.
>> The SC made the decision to go with Silverstripe becaus
ted without relying on outside parties to implement it
for us.
Would this autonomy hinge on us raising the funds to support our own
website infrastructure rather than relying on ODF servers?
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On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Charles-H. Schulz
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> Michael,
>
> The admins have run this since the beginning and I don't see why we should
> host our website elsewhere. Now the website team has some people with admin
> rights and that's how it works. It's actually the usual way to operate
e he reorganised that section.
So it sounds like there is a consensus, after the 10th the website
team will, after the brief from David, do a review on the progress.
In the absense of a Silverstripe team lead, I will try to coordinate
the ideas and change management that comes from this review on t
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Le 2011-01-04 20:37, David Nelson a écrit :
>
> Hi Michael, :-)
>>
>> Just to let you know, I'm currently an admin on the SilverStripe site,
>> and plan to be *actively* involved in the development of the content.
>> My humble suggestion would b
nto putting a very rough prototype together,
but as with the 'Drupal idea' no decisions have or will be made without
wider consultation.
If anybody wishes to participate in this very early idea development and
prototyping I am more than happy to include them in any and all
conversations
if someone approaches a task or discussion from
an inflammatory or derogatory point of view, they have near nothing to
offer.
I hope others share this point of view, and I encourage others to embrace
the positives within our community in order to achieve more than we ever
imagined.
Michael
> I don't know whether I got the correct "tone" for this mail; I hope that
> it conveys some deeper thoughts that might be helpful ... finally, it is
> up to you and the Drupal team how to use/interpret the content. All I
> can do, is to give you some insight what I perceive.
I don't believe you d
ay that the group of people working on the concepts,
ideas and prototyping within the Drupal section of the website team
have made a huge effort for transparency.
Please don't make accusations that are untrue.
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upload them directly to the wiki.
Could you point us to the templates page so I can add them.
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On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 4:11 AM, Stefan Weigel
wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> Am 08.01.2011 14:19, schrieb David Nelson:
>
>> And Sophie, sorry, but they *will* be under Windows, not Linux
>
> This has already been intensively discussed an investigated, when we
> were making screenshots for OpenOffice.org
thout drawing on resources that could
be used for development of LibreOffice.
What do others think? Is the forum support option important for trust
building and familiarity? What system would we use?
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On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Florian Effenberger
wrote:
> Hi Drew,
>
> drew wrote on 2011-01-12 19.31:
>
>> One of the folks, Jeff Chimene, on the US Markting list setup an example
>> under his user account page at the wiki:
>>
>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User_talk:JChimene
>
> good
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:48 PM, David Nelson wrote:
> Hi, :-)
>
> I have linked the libreofficenews Twitter account with identi.ca and
> will tweet from identi.ca in future so that tweets ("dents"?) go to
> both.
>
> David Nelson
This has implications for the Drupal development site as we were
h
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:36 PM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol
wrote:
> Hi Michael, *,
> Am 14.01.2011 09:58, schrieb Michael Wheatland:
>>
>> I think it would also be good to create some 'badges' for people to
>> put on blogs or profiles.
>> This might in
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Charles-H. Schulz
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> Le Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:06:10 +0100,
> klaus-jürgen weghorn ol a écrit :
>
>> Hi Michael, *,
>> Am 14.01.2011 09:58, schrieb Michael Wheatland:
>> >
>> > I think it would also be good to create
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Le 2011-01-14 09:43, David Nelson a écrit :
>>
>> Hi Michael, :-)
>>
>> Thanks for these good ideas. Sure we can implement your suggestions.
>>
>> If you want to help out with screenshots, that's fine, too. I've done
>> all screenshots under Ubu
online at
www.libreofficeaustralia.com however it is likely that I will make the
site read only until we determine the path forward for this
development.
So... The question is, where to now for the Drupal development?
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in the SCs hands to allow the website team to work
collaboratively and constructively in a grass roots 'open' way, rather
than dictating what the website team 'will do' and designating
leaders.
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ade at the most recent meeting and allow autonomy within
the functional teams.
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us to self organise as we did
before, despite what David or other members of the SC would prefer.
The SC can't make every decision and must trust and believe in their
teams if this community is even going to get off the ground. Releasing
the software is only the first step to success, community is the key.
This is NOT a disagreement about CMSs! it is about building community.
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org. :-)
We have offered, and I am sure the offer will remain open. However a
discussion about leadership structure and responsibilities needs to
occur within the website mailing list. Not at the SC.
I personally reject the leadership structure that the SC has dictated
to us until a discussion ha
Please stand by.
David and myself are organising a regroup of the website team in the
form of a Conference Call.
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and elected our own leaders who represent the website team as a whole.
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On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Charles Marcus
wrote:
> On 2011-01-19 4:42 AM, Michael Wheatland wrote:
> > I encourage all of those involved with the website team to vote and
> attend
> > the meeting.
> > It is time we stood up, took ownership of the tools we are r
m and the community.
The only attitude and mindset we need to think about is respectful
collaboration.
I hope this clarifies things,
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d positive input regarding my contribution
to the community ;)
I will be sure to raise your concerns at the first website team conference
call being organised by David Nelson and myself.
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On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Narayan Aras wrote:
>
> Would it be possible to record the call and post a MP3 (with the MoMs) so
> the absentees can listen in later?
>
> Thanks!
>
> We will be organising the use of the current conference call technology. As
I understand it the audio can be dow
are all working towards the same goals.
I encourage you to attend or even just listen to the conference call to ease
your mind and hopefully get you back on board.
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Ivan M. wrote:
> Hi Michael, David, all,
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Michael Wheatland
> wrote:
> > David Nelson and myself are organising the inaugural LibreOffice website
> > team conference call.
> >
> > To
There seems to be a consensus for the conference call.
Is everybody happy if I close the poll and we select Friday 21 January @ 5pm
GMT?
Of the people who have expressed interest in coming along only Narayan is
not able to make it at that time. I already have some notes from him
regarding discussi
etc and post to the wiki.
Thanks all, and I am looking forward to talking to you all on Friday.
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As far as I can see the next best time would be 1900 (7pm) Friday 21 January.
This would also exclude Daniel Stoni as well as Narayan.
Sorry guys.
Would this suit?
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Charles-H. Schulz
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> Not me, but then i'm not the only one to ask. Another day?
>
> Charles.
I have re-opened the poll. Please revisit Doodle to update your
availability times.
http://doodle.com/wzy78i52av4h6din
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> On 2011-01-20 8:48 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
>> Charles Marcus wrote on 2011-01-18 19.52:
>>> If no one*from the SC* contacted Michael*directly* and took the
>>> time to explain the situation to him, then*the SC dropped the
>>> ball*.
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:45 AM, Karl-Heinz Gödderz
wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>> I will update the wiki page with the date and time.
>> David, as we discussed, could you please organise the conf call
>> resource with access codes etc and post to the wiki.
>>
> can you give the address of the page pleas
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Charles Marcus
wrote:
> On 2011-01-17 8:39 AM, David Nelson wrote:
>> But I see a chance to bring him back into the mainstream of the
>> project by encouraging him (and his "Drupal boys") to take a leading
>> role in the development of the SilverStripe website as a
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Bernhard Dippold
wrote:
> Please let us keep focused on the work at the moment. When the present site
> is in a final state, the team has shown how it works and Drupal has lost
> it's "red rag" meaning to some community members, we can consider all of
> these poss
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 2:02 AM, Bernhard Dippold
wrote:
> Hi Narayan,
>
> Narayan Aras schrieb:
>>
>> Hi Nino!
>>
>> What you are suggesting is equivalent to an internal review amongst
>> the team-members.
>
> It's just a proposal for an updated agenda that allows to start working for
> the final
better:
http://doodle.com/wzy78i52av4h6din
Also what do people think about starting early, possibly at 1800GMT so
we can capture as many people as possible over a 1-2 hour period.
Should we book it in?
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I will start developing content for 'why for business' and 'why for
government' I think they have a lot in common.
Does anyone know any reliable statistics about roll out costs,
installation and support?
Mike
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 9:17 PM, David Nelson wrote:
> Hi guys, :-)
>
> I'd like to gi
all then
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I have just noticed that due to the CSS on Silverstripe there is no
way to text without it turning green. Is there any way we can
change this and just use the tags for colours?
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On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Dean Lee wrote:
> my normal strong text
>
> This can work for now but it's better to make some change to the global CSS.
> :)
>
> Best wishes & happy new year,
> Dean
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Michael Wheatlan
>> Does anyone object to this change?
>
> Doesn't look like, so I'll change it now to get this off my list.
Thanks for the good work.
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al conference call this
coming Wednesday, so I suggest you take a look at our wiki pages, and
even if you can't call in and listen to the call, we will post the
recording and the minutes to the wiki after the call.
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website
Again, great to see more people g
Things seem to be moving VERY quickly for LibreOffice.
With the recent announcement of the 3.3 release I have created a wiki
page for the 3.3 release.
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.3
One thing that I didn't know how to do was update the changelog from
the GIT repository.
Can someo
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Christian Lohmaier
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> Hi David,
>
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 4:53 PM, David Nelson wrote:
>> Hi Sophie, :-)
>>
>> Please do not just revert content without contacting me to discuss it.
>> I would remind you of the Steering Committee decision to put me in
>> c
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Christoph Noack wrote:
> Hi Michael, hi website team!
>
> I had a look at the current agenda for the website call that will take
> place tomorrow. And I noticed something ...
>
> Am Montag, den 24.01.2011, 14:40 +0930 schrieb Michael Wheatland:
&
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Daniel Neel wrote:
> I'm somewhat experienced with LO. I've used Open Office daily for around two
> years and LO for 2 or 3 months so far. I wouldn't consider myself a power
> user - mostly I just take notes with Writer. I do follow LO development
> quite a bit tho
archaic
javascript popup?
I am at my wits end and am about to block the popup completely, which
would result in lack of versioning functionality?
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On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:00 AM, David Nelson wrote:
> Hi, :-)
>
> Try and come on IRC maybe?
>
> David Nelson
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 02:21, Ivan M. wrote:
>> Hi Michael, all,
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Michael Wheatland
>>
Technical issues with Talkyoo. On the phone also.
I can't hear anything, just choppy noises.
RQ is having this problem also. Maybe we should be working through
skype native conference call next time?
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, so press
> 3.
>
> Does this work?
>
> Michael Wheatland wrote on 2011-01-26 21.12:
>>
>> Technical issues with Talkyoo. On the phone also.
>>
>> I can't hear anything, just choppy noises.
>> RQ is having this problem also. Maybe we should be working thr
> Sorry, but I really don't get your problem. If you're not done with
> the work, then don't publish. As easy as that.
> If you want to paste something into the comment-box, copy it before
> hitting save & publish, that isn't that hard to adapt to, is it?
> just hit cancel, dialog is away, copy, hi
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Christian Lohmaier
wrote:
> Hi Michael, *,
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Michael Wheatland
> wrote:
>>
>> Having a popup which stops me using my browser is very annoying.
>>
>> Is this a Silverstripe bug?
>
>
While trying to structure the content for the Apple Mac installation
instructions I have been trying to develop a layout that works well
with the large number of images and small quantity of text.
To do this I was going to use tables.
Problem: The WYSIWYG editor on Silverstripe is not inserting th
The website conference call, although plagued by many technical issues
including call quality and a complete dropout of the Talkyou service
there was many topics discussed positively and some some general
outcomes reached.
Although I will list these items here as dot points we need to talk
about t
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Christian Lohmaier
wrote:
> Hi *,
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Michael Wheatland
> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Christian Lohmaier
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> But I'll see how much effort it is to tur
From the conference call outcomes, it is clear that the wiki will
provide a pivotal role in coordinating the team.
There has been a call to restructure the website wiki page. The
question is how should we approach this.
From what I understand, a flat structure is better for translations and i10n.
After inserting an image using the Silverstripe image sidebar I cannot
edit, move or select the image to edit it (I want to put in v/hspace).
Has anyone else using silverstripe encountered all of these bugs I am finding?
I use Chrome 9.0 on Ubuntu 10.10
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Also, I have posted these minutes to the wiki. Please add your name if
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I missed a fair amount of the call due to the Talkyoo problems, so
please add anything I missed.
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/ConfCall/Minutes
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The text from the 'preformatted' CSS style box on our theme seems to
be overflowing rather than wrapping.
See:
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/4894/selection012g.png
I am not a CSS guru, so I don't really know where to start. Can someone help?
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On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Michael Wheatland
wrote:
> After inserting an image using the Silverstripe image sidebar I cannot
> edit, move or select the image to edit it (I want to put in v/hspace).
>
> Has anyone else using silverstripe encountered all of these bugs I am findin
> Help Someone?!?!?
> I am not sure which module we are using to deliver a WYSIWYG editor to
> Silverstripe, but this one clearly does not work well at all.
> I am currently searching through the module list to find how we
> implement ckEditor on the site but I cannot find anything relating to
> ed
Through the website design process an Information Architecture was
developed early on.
https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dfsf53bj_76cwzrp75z (Yes it
was a part of the Drupal development, but was adopted in Silverstripe
also.
The current libreoffice.org site has the following IA:
http://wiki
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote:
> I think the subject of this thread is a bit misunderstandable. The
> talk is just about the wiki pages for the website project, not the the
> whole wiki.
>
> Volker
Thank you for clarifying this point Volker.
This is aimed only at improv
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Rimas Kudelis wrote:
> 2011.01.27 02:22, Michael Wheatland rašė:
>>
>> The text from the 'preformatted' CSS style box on our theme seems to
>> be overflowing rather than wrapping.
>
> Michael, but that's what "p
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Rimas Kudelis wrote:
> 2011.01.27 14:54, Michael Wheatland rašė:
>> Address and preformatted are the only options in the WYSIWYG editor
>> along with H# tags, both of which overflow the text box.
>> If another option was available I would
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Christoph Noack wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 27.01.2011, 04:47 -0800 schrieb Mike Houben:
>> On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:40:48 +0100, Nino Novak wrote:
>> > On Thursday 27 January 2011 00:56, Michael Wheatland wrote:
>> >> Resources - A
move the work that was done under the heading
of the 'Drupal dev' to the /website/development/* area. A lot of work
has gone into discussions with the different teams regarding
workflows, requirements and roles.
Also aligning the development work into one effort is exactly what is
ha
s a discussion about
implementing this idea it would be a good idea to allow the website
team to drive the implementation process.
The expertise within the team will allow us to closely integrate the
forum with the established infrastructure at the time.
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for already inserted images.
I raised this in a separate thread.
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don't feel that way about a bug report, but I encourage
you to also look critically at all the tools we are using, it's only
healthy.
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On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Christian Lohmaier
wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Michael Wheatland
>> Problem: The WYSIWYG editor on Silverstripe is not inserting the
>> table. The table insert dialogue comes up ok, but when I click insert
>> nothing happens.
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Christian Lohmaier
wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Michael Wheatland
> wrote:
>> We really need a path forward on this, probably should have had
>> resolution of this major bug prior to selecting Silverstripe as
meone has explained why it was implemented that way I
understand the reasoning.
I still would like to copy and paste links in there from other tabs.
ie. discussion links on Nabble.
Guess I will just have to remember to copy the link prior to hitting
save or I will be stuck.
Thanks Narayan,
Michael
2011/1/28 Harri Pitkänen :
> On Friday 28 January 2011, Michael Wheatland wrote:
>> Now that someone has explained why it was implemented that way I
>> understand the reasoning.
>> I still would like to copy and paste links in there from other tabs.
>> ie. discussion
and session
sharing.
Could be a great boon for the project.
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entpending.co.nz/libreoffice/static-test2/new.css
> [3] http://itweek.deviantart.com/art/Knob-Buttons-Toolbar-icons-73463960
Ivan,
These look fantastic. I think we should look at implementing this CSS
as soon as possible.
Will give extra style to the site.
Great work,
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> On 2011-01-27 3:36 AM, Cor Nouws wrote:
>> Michael Wheatland wrote (27-01-11 09:05)
>>
>>> What are peoples feelings about the current structure, what tweaks do
>
>
>
>> PS Sorry being the first to
I have just noticed that the DIV style Excerpt ("Attention-Quote")
requires more margin. The quote images overlap the text beside it.
Also, would it be possible to set the default image styles, left align
and right align, to have vspace=15 and hspace=15 ?
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> Hi Michael,
>
> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Michael Wheatland
> wrote:
>> I have just noticed that the DIV style Excerpt ("Attention-Quote")
>> requires more margin. The quote images overlap the text bes
allow the membership
committee to assess the contribution of the website team?
Is it possible/should we collate these numbers into a single
submission to the membership committee?
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sure I missed this discussion, but what is the reasoning not to
use drop down suckerfish menus?
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t to keep the content on
> the page and add something like "to be migrated", but it seems to be
> less ambiguous if I simply refer to the history entry:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Website&oldid=10744
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I will work on this over the coming days.
Mic
ing, but as per many discussions
it has become clear that we need LibreOffice branded forums for
product marketing purposes, and I don't mind where they come from, as
long as we have them.
Just my thoughts,
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you are referring to by 'we', but these plans were
discussed at length on the recent conference call, and the team has
people who are willing to get on board and help out 'now'.
Thanks,
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On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:00 AM, Charles Marcus
wrote:
> On 1/29/2011 1:46 AM, Michael Wheat land wrote:
>>
>> Can you suggest any better way to allow people to express their
>> opinions on the page structures?
>
> I can suggest some things that would be better...
>
> Wiki page
> (use the 'Discus
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Stefan Weigel
wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> Am 31.01.2011 04:31, schrieb Michael Wheatland:
>
>> IMO if we wish to establish LibreOffice as a brand
>
> [...]
>
>> it has become clear that we need LibreOffice branded forums for
>
As with any project it is always important to revisit your initial
plan and compare it to what you ended up with then come to a
compromise. In my experience this is the basis for any half decent
final product in any industry.
Again, nobody is talking about scrapping what we have already as you
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Christian Lohmaier
wrote:
> Hi Michael, *,
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:37 AM, Michael Wheatland
> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Christian Lohmaier
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Michael Wheatland
als:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Structure
Great idea none the less. We are going through an iteration of
improvement on the website usability.
Please feel free to throw up ideas on the wiki.
Michael Wheatland
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