[libreoffice-website] Request for PDF icon in Silverstripe

2013-07-15 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, I received the following request via e-mail: == Could libreoffice.org join the PDF Readers campaign of FSFE, by changing the logo of the PDF documents site-wide? This page recommends Adobe Reader, which is a non-free software. [1] 1. http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/

Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for PDF icon in Silverstripe

2013-07-15 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hello, > > I received the following request via e-mail: > > == > Could libreoffice.org join the PDF Readers campaign of FSFE, by changing the > logo of the PDF documents site-wide? > AFAIK this type of icon has become somewhat pervasiv

Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for PDF icon in Silverstripe

2013-07-16 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, Robinson Tryon wrote on 2013-07-15 16:41: AFAIK this type of icon has become somewhat pervasive as a generic "PDF" icon (even though it does look a lot/exactly like the old Adobe Acrobat icon :-) I might not be sensible enough towards the Free PDF Reader topic, but I also think that t

Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for PDF icon in Silverstripe

2013-07-16 Thread Italo Vignoli
I recently had a discussion about this non existing issue, which is caused by the lack of knowledge of PDF as a standard open format. On 16/07/2013 11:33, Florian Effenberger wrote: > I might not be sensible enough towards the Free PDF Reader topic, but I > also think that that icon is a generic

Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for PDF icon in Silverstripe

2013-07-16 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 16/07/2013 16:11, Robinson Tryon wrote: > I was under the impression that the red trefoil on white was an Adobe > icon/trademark, e.g. as displayed here: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format The Adobe icon has the red trefoil with Adobe or Acrobat (older versions) on it, wh

Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for PDF icon in Silverstripe

2013-07-16 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Robinson Tryon wrote: > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Italo Vignoli > wrote: >> >> We are using the generic PDF icon, which is not referring to a vendor >> but to a standard format. This icon was introduced with PDF in 1993 for >> third parties integrating PD

Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for PDF icon in Silverstripe

2013-07-16 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Italo Vignoli wrote: > On 16/07/2013 16:11, Robinson Tryon wrote: > >> I was under the impression that the red trefoil on white was an Adobe >> icon/trademark, e.g. as displayed here: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format > > The Adobe icon has

Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for PDF icon in Silverstripe

2013-07-16 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Florian, *, On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > == > Could libreoffice.org join the PDF Readers campaign of FSFE, by changing the > logo of the PDF documents site-wide? Italo already answered and explained the difference between document and application already. Bu

Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for PDF icon in Silverstripe

2013-07-16 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Italo Vignoli wrote: > I recently had a discussion about this non existing issue, which is > caused by the lack of knowledge of PDF as a standard open format. > > On 16/07/2013 11:33, Florian Effenberger wrote: > >> I might not be sensible enough towards the Free P

Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for PDF icon in Silverstripe

2013-07-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, thanks for the great feedback, everyone! Christian Lohmaier wrote on 2013-07-16 20:40: But I'm with Italo here: I don't see the need for changing the document-icon. But of course I don't see a reason why the page mentioned above should not be pointing to pdfreaders org for getting a PDF vi

Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for PDF icon in Silverstripe

2013-07-17 Thread Tiberiu C. Turbureanu
Hello, I have requested LO join the PDF readers campaign. The icon near the links called "PDF" to the stored PDF files on your website is not the icon proposed by Adobe for Adobe Acrobat generated PDFs [1]. Simply because the icon does not include the PDF word (or any other indication of PDF)

Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for PDF icon in Silverstripe

2013-07-17 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 17/07/2013 14:42, Tiberiu C. Turbureanu wrote: > The problem is that by displaying an icon of Adobe Acrobat (or even an > Adobe Acrobat generated PDF icon) near a link to a PDF document, a Free > Software organization suggests the use of non-free software to open the > document. This was not de

Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for PDF icon in Silverstripe

2013-07-17 Thread Oskar Olsson
My opinion is that if LibreOffice should sport this new PDF icon it should not start by using the tiny 16x16 icon. You can't see the change there. It should first be introduced as a new "feature" or somehow be blown up into megasize first, so that users can actually build a new relationship to a pr

Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for PDF icon in Silverstripe

2013-07-17 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 17/07/2013 14:42, Tiberiu C. Turbureanu wrote: > This was not decided by TDF, it was decided by the developers > of the software you use for the website. No, it was decided by TDF, because we use standard icons for document formats, and that IS the standard icon for PDF files (you can of cours

Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for PDF icon in Silverstripe

2013-07-17 Thread Tiberiu C. Turbureanu
În 2013-07-17 16:19, Italo Vignoli a scris: The mailing list strips attachments, but in any case we will not use any icon that does not represent PDF files, and this has nothing to do with the fact that we endorse proprietary PDF readers (which is not true). As I already stated: The icon nea

Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for PDF icon in Silverstripe

2013-07-17 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Tiberiu, On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Tiberiu C. Turbureanu wrote: > > I have requested LO join the PDF readers campaign. And as indicated, we're willing to join by linking to the pdf readers site when suggesting people to get a PDF Viewer application. > The icon near the links called "P