On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 12:50:17AM -0600, Jesús Franco wrote:
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> I just wonder why we are using a wiki targeted to encyclopaedia
> development, not for documentation, as DokuWIki is.
Lots of history to that answer, and I think it is off-topic for this
discussion.
It does sound as if we have som
EL Thu, 4 Nov 2010 13:45:25 -0600
Stephen John Smoogen escribió:
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:57, Sijis Aviles wrote:
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> >
> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Stephen John Smoogen
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 19:28, Karsten Wade wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 11:42:52PM
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:57, Sijis Aviles wrote:
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>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Stephen John Smoogen
> wrote:
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>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 19:28, Karsten Wade wrote:
>> > On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 11:42:52PM +, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I don't know if "Wiki Gardening" is
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 19:28, Karsten Wade wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 11:42:52PM +, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't know if "Wiki Gardening" is enough of a solution, bulldozing
> >> or perhaps tactical nukes mi
- "Rahul Sundaram" wrote:
> On 11/03/2010 05:12 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
> > I have not read this whole thread so I hope I am not off on a
> tangent. In some parts of the Fedora Community we refer to the wiki as
> the "Land of forgotten docs."
>
> If you look at the popular end user
On 11/03/2010 05:12 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
> I have not read this whole thread so I hope I am not off on a tangent. In
> some parts of the Fedora Community we refer to the wiki as the "Land of
> forgotten docs."
If you look at the popular end user content, it gets edited quite often
and
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 10:41:33PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> 'Wiki' is a technology. The wiki is primarily for contributors. The
> wiki's unfriendliness to folks not familiar with Fedora is why we have a
> website in the first place, rather than just a wiki.
There are lots of people that are n
- "Stephen John Smoogen" wrote:
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> The KBase is on my deliverables for this year.. which uhm is ending
> in
> a couple of weeks. I need to uhm get cracking it would seem.
>
Very cool to hear!
-- Bob
| Robert
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 19:28, Karsten Wade wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 11:42:52PM +, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
>>
>> I don't know if "Wiki Gardening" is enough of a solution, bulldozing
>> or perhaps tactical nukes might be more effective options.
>
> A kbase-type solution is probably wh
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 11:42:52PM +, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
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> I don't know if "Wiki Gardening" is enough of a solution, bulldozing
> or perhaps tactical nukes might be more effective options.
A kbase-type solution is probably what's needed - something that
encourages a growing body of
- "Karsten Wade" wrote:
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> That would be a mighty interesting project - migrate all
> using-Fedora-the-distro content off the wiki and in to a kbase.
>
> What I meant by reworking the front page of the wiki is more than a
> splash page, just a bit less than right now:
>
> https://fedorapr
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 10:50:45PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
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> I think users who aren't contributors would be better served by a
> knowledgebase than the wiki... I mean, here's some common first-time
> user questions that have been raised in my Girl Scouts class and the
> wiki results:
Well pu
Hi Karsten,
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 17:10 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:
> Right, that's fine; like Ian, I was mainly pointing out that the
> wiki[1] is (at least) dual-purpose, so putting a link to it's
> front-page might come from two different purposes.
The reason I put the link in the navbar was sp
2010/11/2 Karsten Wade
>
> Right, that's fine; like Ian, I was mainly pointing out that the
> wiki[1] is (at least) dual-purpose, so putting a link to it's
> front-page might come from two different purposes.
>
> What is the front page of the wiki as a destination?
>
> Considering what is now on t
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 04:37:00PM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 06:05:42PM -0500, Sijis Aviles wrote:
> >
> >
> > Karsten,
> >
> > I think you are right on track with what is going on here. There just isn't
> > a
> > way to define all the things the wiki represent in
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 04:18:35PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 11:41 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:
> > What if "Contributors" went to a specific page on the wiki, such as
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join , and a "Wiki" link went to the
> > wiki front page?
>
> I'm really
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 06:05:42PM -0500, Sijis Aviles wrote:
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>
> Karsten,
>
> I think you are right on track with what is going on here. There just isn't a
> way to define all the things the wiki represent in a single word. I do agree
> with M ir n that using the word wiki is not insightful,
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Karsten Wade wrote:
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> The reason why you are all talking orthogonally to each other is that
> the wiki is actually _more_than_one_thing_:
>
> * It is for documentation. A place where anyone can write up
> documentation for *any audience*: short how-to, tutorial
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 11:41 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:
> What if "Contributors" went to a specific page on the wiki, such as
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join , and a "Wiki" link went to the
> wiki front page?
I'm really sorry, but I'm not comfortable with this suggestion at all.
As pointed ou
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 12:16 -0500, Ian Weller wrote:
> Perfect examples of both:
> 1) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB
I don't think that's a great example:
#1 That page is extremely difficult to find, and I ran into a number of
really confusing issues using it. We po
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 17:54 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 11/01/2010 05:35 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 13:30 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote
> >> I think wiki has a lot of useful content for users and we keep adding
> >> more. I am not sure it is intended for just contributor
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 05:54:45PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 11/01/2010 05:35 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 13:30 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote
> >> I think wiki has a lot of useful content for users and we keep adding
> >> more. I am not sure it is intended for just con
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 04:37:22PM +0100, Kévin Raymond wrote:
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> Hum, in that case, the wiki is not a draft for the documentation[1]?
> Which is of course *the* documentation up to date.
> Like Máirín said, do you guys have a link to these useful web pages?
> They are hidden in the wiki. I perso
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 01:30:13PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> 2010/11/1 Máirín Duffy
> > 'Wiki' is a technology. The wiki is primarily for contributors. The
> > wiki's unfriendliness to folks not familiar with Fedora is why we have a
> > website in the first place, rather than just a wiki.
> >
2010/11/1 Stephen John Smoogen :
> 2010/10/31 Máirín Duffy :
>> On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 10:20 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>>> I don't go to the wiki to contribute. I go to the wiki to find out how
>>> to do things.
>>
>> What things? Create a FAS account? :)
>
> How to install. How to setup th
On 11/01/2010 05:35 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 13:30 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote
>> I think wiki has a lot of useful content for users and we keep adding
>> more. I am not sure it is intended for just contributors.
> Can you give me some examples? Is this content best access
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 13:30 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote
>
> I think wiki has a lot of useful content for users and we keep adding
> more. I am not sure it is intended for just contributors.
Can you give me some examples? Is this content best accessed from the
front page of the wiki or from a le
2010/11/1 Máirín Duffy
> Hi Rahul,
>
> On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 13:57 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > I see that fedoraproject.org design is getting a large amount of
> > feedback but I saw a few people suggesting $subject and perhaps it has
> > not been captured here. What do you think of that?
2010/10/31 Máirín Duffy :
> On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 10:20 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>> I don't go to the wiki to contribute. I go to the wiki to find out how
>> to do things.
>
> What things? Create a FAS account? :)
How to install. How to setup things. How to use yum (well hopefully).
And
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 10:20 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> I don't go to the wiki to contribute. I go to the wiki to find out how
> to do things.
What things? Create a FAS account? :)
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Hi Rahul,
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 13:57 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> I see that fedoraproject.org design is getting a large amount of
> feedback but I saw a few people suggesting $subject and perhaps it has
> not been captured here. What do you think of that? Wiki is popular
> and people recogni
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 07:10, Kevin Raymond wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I see that fedoraproject.org design is getting a large amount of feedback
>> but I saw a few people suggesting $subject and perhaps it has not been
>> captured here. What do
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I see that fedoraproject.org design is getting a large amount of feedback
> but I saw a few people suggesting $subject and perhaps it has not been
> captured here. What do you think of that? Wiki is popular and people
> recognize t
Hi,
I see that fedoraproject.org design is getting a large amount of feedback
but I saw a few people suggesting $subject and perhaps it has not been
captured here. What do you think of that? Wiki is popular and people
recognize the word just fine IMO.
Rahu
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