RE: [Webware-devel] distutils re-packaging of Webware

2001-08-27 Thread Tavis Rudd
just a quick note: I've updated a few things in that package. If you're testing or reviewing it please download a new version from http://calrudd.com/Webware-experimental_redesign.tar.gz ___ Webware-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.so

[Webware-devel] Cookie/redirect errors

2001-08-27 Thread Ian Bicking
The errors with cookies and redirect seem to come up fairly consistently. Maybe webware should print a warning when both the location and cookie headers are set, or whatever the circumstances that cause this (maybe just for temporary redirect?) Ian

RE: [Webware-devel] distutils re-packaging of Webware

2001-08-27 Thread Love, Jay
> Geoff wrote: > >- Many of the differences in your design sound very similar > >to the multi-app stuff that Jay has been working on. > > I haven't looked closely at Jay's implementation, but many > the design ideas are the same. If we go ahead with > finishing this refactoring off it woul

Re: [Skunkweb-list] Re: [Webware-devel] corrections to the Skunkweb FAQ

2001-08-27 Thread Tavis Rudd
Drew, STML looks interesting! There's some ideas in there that would benefit Cheetah (www.cheetahtemplate.org) and probably vice versa. It'll be interesting to get STML running with Webware as well. You should ask Chuck to add a link to it on his 'Templates Summary' page: http://webware.sou

RE: [Webware-devel] distutils re-packaging of Webware

2001-08-27 Thread Tavis Rudd
Geoff wrote: >- Many of the differences in your design sound very similar >to the multi-app stuff that Jay has been working on. I haven't looked closely at Jay's implementation, but many the design ideas are the same. If we go ahead with finishing this refactoring off it would be great to go

[Webware-devel] kill -s HUP AppServer would be great

2001-08-27 Thread Jeff Johnson
One of the discussions mentioned sending a HUP signal to AppServer. This would be a big improvement over stopping and restarting AppServer. Especially with the problems restarting AppServer on FreeBSD. Would it be hard to do? ___ Webware-devel mailing

Re: [Skunkweb-list] Re: [Webware-devel] corrections to the Skunkweb FAQ

2001-08-27 Thread Drew Csillag
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 11:37:39AM -0500, Ian Bicking wrote: > Drew Csillag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Another thing for SkunkWeb performance. You want to turn off > > userModuleCleanup. If on, it clears out any modules that were loaded > > during the course of processing the request, which

Re: [Skunkweb-list] Re: [Webware-devel] corrections to the Skunkweb FAQ

2001-08-27 Thread Drew Csillag
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 12:29:17PM -0400, Drew Csillag wrote: > On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 04:15:20PM +0200, Tom Schwaller wrote: > > Drew Csillag wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 11:41:08AM +0200, Tom Schwaller wrote: > > > > Tavis Rudd wrote: > > > > > > > > > All of this is true, but th

Re: [Skunkweb-list] Re: [Webware-devel] corrections to theSkunkweb FAQ

2001-08-27 Thread Ian Bicking
Drew Csillag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another thing for SkunkWeb performance. You want to turn off > userModuleCleanup. If on, it clears out any modules that were loaded > during the course of processing the request, which in a development > environment is what you want since you don't want

Re: [Skunkweb-list] Re: [Webware-devel] corrections to the Skunkweb FAQ

2001-08-27 Thread Drew Csillag
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 04:15:20PM +0200, Tom Schwaller wrote: > Drew Csillag wrote: > > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 11:41:08AM +0200, Tom Schwaller wrote: > > > Tavis Rudd wrote: > > > > > > > All of this is true, but the final statement is unproven. > > > > There are many factors involved and r

RE: [Webware-devel] distutils re-packaging of Webware

2001-08-27 Thread Love, Jay
The redesign is not really of the AppServers. It's Application that is the big difference. Any speed increase comes from that. As such, we need to go through Application and review all of the differences. What I would really like to do is go through all the chanages/diffs and see if they mak

Re: [Webware-devel] distutils re-packaging of Webware

2001-08-27 Thread Geoff Talvola
At 02:40 PM 8/26/01 -0700, Tavis Rudd wrote: >I've been quietly working away an experimental redesign and >repackaging of Webware. It is not a 'rewrite' of Webware. >Chuck, Geoff, Jay, and the other Webware developers have >done some excellent work with the existing Webware. Most of >the code in

Re: [Skunkweb-list] Re: [Webware-devel] corrections to the Skunkweb FAQ

2001-08-27 Thread Tom Schwaller
Drew Csillag wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 11:41:08AM +0200, Tom Schwaller wrote: > > Tavis Rudd wrote: > > > > > All of this is true, but the final statement is unproven. > > > There are many factors involved and realistic benchmarks > > > are needed before such a statement can be made. > >

Re: [Webware-devel] distutils re-packaging of Webware

2001-08-27 Thread Tom Schwaller
Tavis Rudd wrote: > I've been quietly working away an experimental redesign and > repackaging of Webware. It is not a 'rewrite' of Webware. > Chuck, Geoff, Jay, and the other Webware developers have > done some excellent work with the existing Webware. Most of > the code in this redesign is thei

Re: [Skunkweb-list] Re: [Webware-devel] corrections to the Skunkweb FAQ

2001-08-27 Thread Drew Csillag
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 11:41:08AM +0200, Tom Schwaller wrote: > Tavis Rudd wrote: > > > All of this is true, but the final statement is unproven. > > There are many factors involved and realistic benchmarks > > are needed before such a statement can be made. > > I did some Apache benchmarks (w

Re: [Skunkweb-list] Re: [Webware-devel] corrections to the Skunkweb FAQ

2001-08-27 Thread Drew Csillag
On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 08:20:09PM -0500, Ian Bicking wrote: > Tavis Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 3) You write: > > "WebWare uses a threaded model. While in some ways makes > > things simpler, it makes many things more complicated. > > Also, because of the Python global interpreter lock,

[Webware-devel] Re: [Skunkweb-list] corrections to the Skunkweb FAQ

2001-08-27 Thread Drew Csillag
On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 05:52:18PM -0700, Tavis Rudd wrote: > Hi, > I was just reading through the Skunkweb FAQ and noticed a > few statements about Webware that aren't correct: > > 1) You write that "WebWare uses PSP as it's sole templating > language". Webware is being used with several oth

Re: [Webware-devel] corrections to the Skunkweb FAQ

2001-08-27 Thread Tom Schwaller
Tavis Rudd wrote: > All of this is true, but the final statement is unproven. > There are many factors involved and realistic benchmarks > are needed before such a statement can be made. I did some Apache benchmarks (with ab) with more ore less static pages. Webware was much faster than SkunkWe