Re: [Webware-discuss] WebwareUserManager (was Re: UserKit)

2001-12-09 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Monday 26 November 2001 06:23 pm, Tavis Rudd wrote: > How many people have actually written custom servlet factories? I have. Most frequently for text heavy pages that still need the customized header, sidebar and footer of the web site. I use the extension .htmlf and simply install the fact

Re: [Webware-discuss] WebwareUserManager (was Re: UserKit)

2001-12-09 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Thursday 22 November 2001 05:42 pm, Darryl wrote: > I'd like to add that webware should keep it's user management > abstract enough that when someone grafts a GUI onto their > business and data objects they dont' have to re-invent the wheel. I agree wholeheartedly with that and have taken that

Re: [Webware-discuss] WebwareUserManager (was Re: UserKit)

2001-11-26 Thread Tavis Rudd
On Monday 26 November 2001 17:02, Geoffrey Talvola wrote: > On Sunday November 25, 2001 03:24 pm, Tavis Rudd wrote: > > That's true, but the developer doesn't neccessarily have direct > > access to those servlets ... unless they make a custom servlet > > factory for unknown file types. And if you

Re: [Webware-discuss] WebwareUserManager (was Re: UserKit)

2001-11-26 Thread Geoffrey Talvola
On Sunday November 25, 2001 03:24 pm, Tavis Rudd wrote: > On Saturday 24 November 2001 21:06, Ian Bicking wrote: > > Let's see, I missed most of the latter part of this discussion. > > I'll add to the Wiki pages, but there's a particular point I was > > confused about: > > > > On Wed, 2001-11-21 a

Re: [Webware-discuss] WebwareUserManager (was Re: UserKit)

2001-11-25 Thread Tavis Rudd
On Saturday 24 November 2001 21:06, Ian Bicking wrote: > Let's see, I missed most of the latter part of this discussion. > I'll add to the Wiki pages, but there's a particular point I was > confused about: > > On Wed, 2001-11-21 at 14:13, Tavis Rudd wrote: > > * At what stage in the request-respo

Re: [Webware-discuss] WebwareUserManager (was Re: UserKit)

2001-11-24 Thread Ian Bicking
Let's see, I missed most of the latter part of this discussion. I'll add to the Wiki pages, but there's a particular point I was confused about: On Wed, 2001-11-21 at 14:13, Tavis Rudd wrote: > * At what stage in the request-response cycle does authentification > take place (Adapter, Applicatio

Re: [Webware-discuss] WebwareUserManager (was Re: UserKit)

2001-11-22 Thread Darryl
I'd like to add that webware should keep it's user management abstract enough that when someone grafts a GUI onto their business and data objects they dont' have to re-invent the wheel. -Darryl ___ Webware-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https

Re: [Webware-discuss] WebwareUserManager (was Re: UserKit)

2001-11-22 Thread Tavis Rudd
On Thursday 22 November 2001 13:04, Mike Orr wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:26:59AM -0800, Tavis Rudd wrote: > > > As can be guessed from what I've just written, it makes sense > > > to "extend" sessions to allow a user identity to be associated > > > with them. But no more than that should b

Re: [Webware-discuss] WebwareUserManager (was Re: UserKit)

2001-11-22 Thread Mike Orr
On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:26:59AM -0800, Tavis Rudd wrote: > > As can be guessed from what I've just written, it makes sense to > > "extend" sessions to allow a user identity to be associated with > > them. But no more than that should be involved; certainly not what > > rights someone has. > >

Re: [Webware-discuss] WebwareUserManager (was Re: UserKit)

2001-11-22 Thread Tavis Rudd
and here's a more technical paper on authentication: Title: Do's and Don'ts of Client Authentication on the Web http://cookies.lcs.mit.edu/pubs/webauth:tr.pdf includes cases studies from 27 sites ___ Webware-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https

Re: [Webware-discuss] WebwareUserManager (was Re: UserKit)

2001-11-22 Thread Tavis Rudd
Here's an excellent summary http://www.wwnet.net/~janc/auth.html ! ___ Webware-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-discuss

Re: [Webware-discuss] WebwareUserManager (was Re: UserKit)

2001-11-22 Thread Tavis Rudd
On Thursday 22 November 2001 03:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Tavis Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Remember, this discussion is about a UserManagement system that > > can be used for the various application ideas on the AppIdeas > > wiki page. Most of those would fall into the 'large, complex

[Webware-discuss] WebwareUserManager (was Re: UserKit)

2001-11-22 Thread paul
Tavis Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Remember, this discussion is about a UserManagement system that can >be used for the various application ideas on the AppIdeas wiki page. >Most of those would fall into the 'large, complex' category. We >would really need to discuss the permissions sys

[Webware-discuss] WebwareUserManager (was Re: UserKit)

2001-11-21 Thread Tavis Rudd
On Wednesday 21 November 2001 10:13, Mike Orr wrote: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:21:30AM -0800, Tavis Rudd wrote: > > > In the more general sense, you might want to have relations. A > > > person can "own" something, perhaps another person is the > > > "creator", or "manager", etc. I suppose th