If units aren’t an issue, then in the infamous words of Alfred E. Neuman, what, 
me worry?

 

 

From: weewx-user@googlegroups.com <weewx-user@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
steeple ian
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 11:37 AM
To: weewx-user@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

 

Gary,

 

Ok have a look here: -

 

https://claydonsweather.org.uk

 

The base units are set in weewx.conf to METRICWX. The json data from WU is 
coming as US, DarkSky as METRIC. The skin is displaying U.K. units which is 
Metric with mph. Click on the F button too right and watch what happens to the 
units including those of the forecasts. Go to the menu accessed by clicking top 
left. You will see toggles for various unit systems. The data does not change, 
it is just converted on the fly. So I don’t see units being an issue.

Ian

 

On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 16:05, G Hammer <gary.ham...@gmail.com 
<mailto:gary.ham...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Metric is not used in the US would be the problem.

 

 

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, 10:37 AM steeple ian <steeple...@gmail.com 
<mailto:steeple...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Quote from yr.no <http://yr.no>  website: -

 


"A new Yr API is on the way!


We are working on a new and modern API, that we plan to release some time in 
the winter 2019. Make sure you visit this site to keep posted!"

I am not sure why metric only is so much of a problem anyway, but maybe that 
will be fixed in the new API anyway.

>From a personal point of view, I use forecasting services from YR DarkSky, WU, 
>and UK Metoffice. I know it can be subjective but for my location YR is by far 
>the most accurate.

Ian

 

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:17 PM Pat <p...@obrienphoto.net 
<mailto:p...@obrienphoto.net> > wrote:

yr.no <http://yr.no>  isn't commercially owned, so the theory is they won't get 
bought out or go away. They're owned by the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation 
and the Norwegian Meteorological Institute. That said, it's only in metric, 
does not have weather alerts and is in XML format only. 

 

The pro is that they don't seem at risk of being purchased and going away. The 
con is it may not be a good fit for how the skin is being used. 



On Friday, April 3, 2020 at 10:01:39 AM UTC-4, G Hammer wrote:

I'd say OWM, simply because I see no way to get anything except metric/C from 
yr.no <http://yr.no> 

On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 9:11:43 PM UTC-4, Pat wrote:

I'm sure the Belchertown skin could benefit from the forecasts plugin, but 
Belchertown does more than that. It shows weather alerts for your location as 
well as current conditions. The forecasting plugin doesn't provide those 2 
bits. For that you need a service, and if you're getting info from the service 
(in my opinion), one stop shop for it (get the forecast too). 

 

As for maintaining a plugin base for each region/location, that's not something 
I can develop or support right now. The JSON would have to be formatted exactly 
for each service in order to support the current way of updates. Again, this is 
a simple task for 1 provider who has all this data for worldwide regions

 

I understand that OWM could become the next DarkSky but I think it's the best 
option for what we have right now. The free tier should be able to provide 
enough data to replace DarkSky. 

 

It's just a matter of time on my end.

 


On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 6:38:28 PM UTC-4, William Burton wrote:

Hello,

On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 4:34:46 PM UTC-4, Wes Witt wrote:

how about implementing a design that allows for weather forecast 
extensions/plugins. then regional plugins can be built and allow the user to 
choose the weather forecast service that is best for them. this way you don't 
need a single service that works for everyone. it can be very difficult to find 
a service that works everywhere and if you can find one it may result in a low 
bar terms of quality and features from the service.

 

I was thinking the exact same thing as it doesn't make sense for every skin 
author to have to implement forecasting from scratch. There are many API's and 
there won't be one that works for everyone everywhere.

 

The weewx-forecast extension (https://github.com/matthewwall/weewx-forecast), 
already handles the following weather forecasting services:

 

  US National Weather Service (NWS)
  the weather underground (WU)
  open weathermap (OWM)
  UK Met Office (UKMO)
  Aeris Weather
  World Weather Online (WWO)
  Dark Sky (DS)
  Zambretti
 
The extension also handles tide predictions using xtide.
 
My thought was to enhance the weewx-forecast extension to:
* Output a generic JSON file that can be loaded via Ajax into a theme. As much 
as possible, the JSON would be generated in a manner that's consistent across 
different API implementations to make it easier to incorporate into a skin.
* Output one or more include files that can be included into other skins.
Skins like Belchertown can incorporate this output using either method as 
appropriate. The end result is it would be far easier for skin maintainers to 
expand forecasting options.
 
The benefit to this approach is the ability to support many more options for 
forecasting more widely. However, a small drawback is users of WeeWX will have 
to install another extension and configure it in addition to the selected skin.
 
-Bill

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