Re: [whatwg]

2006-01-19 Thread James Graham
Thomas Much wrote: am 19.01.2006 23:50 Uhr schrieb Tyler Close unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No, they'll just disable it Why hasn't this happened to the HTTP Referer header? There are browsers out there that let the user disable the HTTP referrer (and enable it only for certain sites that require

Re: [whatwg]

2006-01-19 Thread Thomas Much
am 19.01.2006 23:50 Uhr schrieb Tyler Close unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> No, they'll just disable it > Why hasn't this happened to the HTTP Referer header? There are browsers out there that let the user disable the HTTP referrer (and enable it only for certain sites that require it for whatever re

Re: [whatwg]

2006-01-19 Thread Tyler Close
Hi Jim, On 1/19/06, Jim Ley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/19/06, Tyler Close <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think it would be fair to characterize current techniques for link > > click tracking as "opaque". In contrast, the proposed "ping" attribute > > explicitly declares in the HTML what i

Re: [whatwg]

2006-01-19 Thread Jim Ley
On 1/19/06, Tyler Close <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it would be fair to characterize current techniques for link > click tracking as "opaque". In contrast, the proposed "ping" attribute > explicitly declares in the HTML what is intended and how it will > happen. Perhaps the right way to ex

Re: [whatwg]

2006-01-19 Thread Tyler Close
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:38:41 +0600, James Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And boy does it suggest this feature will be a marketing problem :( > Darin Fisher blogged the Mozilla implementation[1] and received a stream > of comments, many from people who clearly haven't thought about how easy > t

Re: [whatwg] Definition of alt= attribute

2006-01-19 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:05:30 +0600, Anne van Kesteren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That is because the "title" attribute is not important for the element its _contents_. Without the "alt" attribute becomes meaningless for devices (and people) who can not interpreted images. Now I guess that

Re: [whatwg] Definition of alt= attribute

2006-01-19 Thread Anne van Kesteren
Quoting Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I wonder why alt is a required attribute for IMG in HTML while an empty value is allowed. Because an empty value means that there is no alternate text and no attribute at all means that alternate text is missing. (Which is clearly not what yo

Re: [whatwg] Definition of alt= attribute

2006-01-19 Thread Jim Ley
On 1/19/06, Anne van Kesteren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I wonder why alt is a required attribute for IMG in HTML while an > > empty value is allowed. > > Because an empty value means that there is no alternate text and no > attribute at > all

Re: [whatwg] Definition of alt= attribute

2006-01-19 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:44:29 +0600, Anne van Kesteren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wonder why alt is a required attribute for IMG in HTML while an empty value is allowed. Because an empty value means that there is no alternate text and no attribute at all means that alternate text is mis

Re: [whatwg] Definition of alt= attribute

2006-01-19 Thread Anne van Kesteren
Quoting Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I wonder why alt is a required attribute for IMG in HTML while an empty value is allowed. Because an empty value means that there is no alternate text and no attribute at all means that alternate text is missing. (Which is clearly not what you

Re: [whatwg]

2006-01-19 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:38:41 +0600, James Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And boy does it suggest this feature will be a marketing problem :( Darin Fisher blogged the Mozilla implementation[1] and received a stream of comments, many from people who clearly haven't thought about how easy t

Re: [whatwg] Definition of alt= attribute

2006-01-19 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:43:42 +0600, Matthew Paul Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In HTML 4 alt= is an attribute for , , and . I can think of no reason for slightly more sense, for non-interactive UAs), and Web Applications 1.0 currently includes an "applets" HTMLCollection but no element