Re: [whatwg]

2007-05-02 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Sander Tekelenburg wrote: And while we add all that presentational HTML to the spec, some enterprising hacker builds a HTML->PDF converter that has CSS support -- we'll have a spec allowing things we didn't really want to allow and for which there's not even a use case anymore. Well, PrinceXML

[whatwg] Editorial: value attribute of the li element

2007-05-02 Thread Thomas Broyer
In : The value attribute, if present, must be a valid integer giving the ordinal value of the first list item. Shouldn't it be "the ordinal value of the list item" instead of "the first list item"? Looks like a copy/paste from the

Re: [whatwg]

2007-05-02 Thread Sander Tekelenburg
At 06:48 +1000 UTC, on 2007-05-03, Adrian Sutton wrote: > On 3/5/07 2:23 AM, "Sander Tekelenburg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [HTML -> PDF converters ignore CSS] >> OK. Real world issues. But that doesn't mean that the HTML spec is the place >> to fix those. Looks more like an opportunity for bet

Re: [whatwg]

2007-05-02 Thread Adrian Sutton
On 3/5/07 2:23 AM, "Sander Tekelenburg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK. Real world issues. But that doesn't mean that the HTML spec is the place > to fix those. Looks more like an opportunity for beter PDF generators to grab > market share and for IE to fix security bugs. Well sure you can ignore

Re: [whatwg] Cue points in media elements

2007-05-02 Thread Kevin Calhoun
On May 2, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Dave Singer wrote: At 17:04 -0400 1/05/07, Brian Campbell wrote: On May 1, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Kevin Calhoun wrote: I believe that a cue point is "reached" if its time is traversed during playback. What does "traversed" mean in terms of (a) seeking across the c

Re: [whatwg] Cue points in media elements

2007-05-02 Thread Dave Singer
At 17:04 -0400 1/05/07, Brian Campbell wrote: On May 1, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Kevin Calhoun wrote: I believe that a cue point is "reached" if its time is traversed during playback. What does "traversed" mean in terms of (a) seeking across the cue point (b) playing in reverse (rewinding) and (c)

Re: [whatwg]

2007-05-02 Thread Sander Tekelenburg
At 11:01 +1000 UTC, on 2007-05-02, Adrian Sutton wrote: > On 2/5/07 1:28 AM, "Sander Tekelenburg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] >> can you explain exactly how span is much more difficult to work >> with, and for whom? > > Quite a number of the cheap HTML to PDF conversion processes don't supp

Re: [whatwg] additional empty elements

2007-05-02 Thread Geoffrey Sneddon
On 1 May 2007, at 20:21, Brenton Strine wrote: However, if I then wanted to add additional special styling to the first and third div, (e.g.. a border and background color) it is less graceful. I could add style attributes, but that would be wasteful if I want to do this on a large scale. Multi

Re: [whatwg] (was Support Existing Content)

2007-05-02 Thread Adrian Sutton
On 2/5/07 4:59 PM, "Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adrian Sutton wrote: > >> That said, by default our editor outputs the span tag version because we >> like to follow standards and I recommend using our styles menu to apply CSS >> classes and appropriate structural markup (he