Re: [whatwg] Entity parsing

2007-06-23 Thread Sander
Ian Hickson schreef: I've defined the parsing and conformance requirements in a way that matches IE. As a side-effect, this has made things like "naïve" actually conforming. I don't know if we want this. As a front-end developer I'd say "no". This makes it much harder to read the source code,

Re: [whatwg] Entity parsing [trema/diæresis vs umlau t]

2007-06-23 Thread Sander
Øistein E. Andersen schreef: Kristof Zelechovski wrote: Only the vowel U can have either This is not quite right. All Latin vowels (a, e, i, o, u, y) can take the trema/diæresis (ä, ë, ï, ö, ü in Dutch; ë, ï, ü*, ÿ** in French), and a, o, u can all be umlauted (ä, ö, ü in German).

Re: [whatwg] Internal character encoding declaration, Drop UTF-32, and UTF and BOM terminology

2007-06-23 Thread Michael A. Puls II
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006, Henri Sivonen wrote: > The encoding labels with LE or BE in them mean BOMless variants where > the encoding label on the transfer protocol level gives the endianness. > See http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2781.txt When the spec refers to UTF-16 > with BOM in a particular endianness

Re: [whatwg] The issue of interoperability of the element

2007-06-23 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
Such a development is a clear sign to change the spec to require theora/vorbis support instead of just recommending it. A baseline codec has to be a requirement. Thus, I suggest to change the wording to "User agents must support Theora video and Vorbis audio, as well as the Ogg container format".

Re: [whatwg] Entity parsing

2007-06-23 Thread Øistein E . Andersen
On 15 Jun 2007, at 2:5AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > it's pragmatic (after all, why require the semicolon?), and is equivalent to > not requiring quotes around attribute values. This would be a good simile if it the optionality were systematic, but it currently applies to a highly erratic set of entitie

Re: [whatwg] Entity parsing [trema/diæresis vs umlaut]

2007-06-23 Thread Øistein E . Andersen
Sander wrote: > Are there any char-sets that have both umlaut and trema variations of > characters? Unicode does not make the distinction, so this is somewhat unlikely. (Personally, I tend to think that the apparent preference for umlaut dots closer to the letter than trema dots can be linked t

[whatwg] Feature request: Provide event to detect url hash (named anchor) change

2007-06-23 Thread Agustín Fernández
Hi, There is currently no way to detect a change in the url of a page other than polling for changes in document.location.hash all the time (which is slow and potentially complex, and doesn't always work in IE -) or listening for click events on all links (which doesn't catch changes not started b

Re: [whatwg] Entity parsing

2007-06-23 Thread Sam Ruby
On 6/14/07, Ian Hickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, Øistein E. Andersen wrote: > > From section 9.2.3.1. Tokenising entities: > > For some entities, UAs require a semicolon, for others they don't. > > This applies to IE. > > FWIW, the entities not requiring a semicolon are the

[whatwg] The issue of interoperability of the element

2007-06-23 Thread Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves
Dear WHATWG members, It has come to my attention that Apple developers behind the WebKit platform, which powers the web browser Safari, apparently intend to support the video element of the HTML 5 spec, section 3.14.7. It's all fine and well, but not a victory for web interoperability, as they d

[whatwg] Canvas patterns, and miscellaneous other things

2007-06-23 Thread Philip Taylor
What should happen if you try drawing a 0x0-pixel repeating pattern? (I can't find a way to make a 0x0 image that any browser will load, but the spec says you can make a 0x0 canvas. Firefox and Opera can't make a 0x0 canvas - it acts like it's 300x150 pixels instead. Safari returns null from creat

Re: [whatwg] Entity parsing

2007-06-23 Thread Sander
I hadn't thought of that one ;-) (in Dutch there are no native words with umlauts, only some of German or Scandinavian descent). My question was about char-sets that contain both a trema version and a (seperate) umlaut version of the same character. Are there any? cheers, Sander Kristof Zele

Re: [whatwg] Entity parsing

2007-06-23 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Friday 15 June 2007 03:05, Ian Hickson wrote: > On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, �istein E. Andersen wrote: > > From section 9.2.3.1. Tokenising entities: > > > For some entities, UAs require a semicolon, for others they don't. > > > > This applies to IE. > > > > FWIW, the entities not requiring a semicolon

Re: [whatwg] Internal character encoding declaration, Drop UTF-32, and UTF and BOM terminology

2007-06-23 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006, Henri Sivonen wrote: > > I think allowing in-place decoder change (when feasible) would be good > for performance. Done. > > > I think it would be beneficial to additionally stipulate that > > > > > > 1. The meta element-based character encoding information declaration >