Re: [whatwg] ApplicationCache spec questions

2009-06-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, pamela fox wrote: I was looking through the ApplicationCache API description (e.g. http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#handler-appcache-onnoupdate) and am trying to figure out, as a web developer, what my code might look like for using

Re: [whatwg] content models clarity

2009-06-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Rikkert Koppes wrote: The content models [1] section is pretty clear, however, whenever one wants to know which elements fall into a specific content model, one has to look at the categories definition of each element. A (possibly non normative) overview would be

Re: [whatwg] A Quick Introduction to HTML 5

2009-06-29 Thread Sam Dutton
What's the audience for this section? (Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere.) If the intended readers are new to HTML, as implied, then technical words and concepts shouldn't be introduced without explanation. For example: The tree formed by an HTML document in this way is turned

[whatwg] ambiguity in header definition

2009-06-29 Thread Bruce Lawson
spec says A header element typically contains the section's heading (an h1–h6 element or an hgroup element), but can also contain other content I read this as other meaning different - e.g., header doesn't need to contain an h1–h6 element or an hgroup element. Others I know read other

Re: [whatwg] ambiguity in header definition

2009-06-29 Thread Thomas Broyer
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Bruce Lawsonbru...@opera.com wrote: spec says A header element typically contains the section's heading (an h1–h6 element or an hgroup element), but can also contain other content I read this as other meaning different  - e.g., header doesn't need to contain

Re: [whatwg] Issues with Web Sockets API

2009-06-29 Thread Michael Nordman
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Jeff Walden jwalden+wha...@mit.edujwalden%2bwha...@mit.edu wrote: On 26.6.09 16:49, Michael Nordman wrote: Progress bars are routinely implemented without get hi-level application acks from the other side. XMLHttpRequest.upload.onprogress is one such

Re: [whatwg] cross-domain scrollIntoView on frames and iframes

2009-06-29 Thread Ojan Vafai
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Ojan Vafai wrote: I'm suggesting an addition to cross-domain (i)frames that allows scrolling specific content into view. The use case is sites that aggregate data from many sites (e.g. search engines)

[whatwg] Codecs for audio and video

2009-06-29 Thread Ian Hickson
[This message is bcc'ed to around 100 people who at some point or other sent comments to the WHATWG list on this topic.] After an inordinate amount of discussions, both in public and privately, on the situation regarding codecs for video and audio in HTML5, I have reluctantly come to the

Re: [whatwg] Codecs for audio and video

2009-06-29 Thread Matthew Gregan
At 2009-06-30T04:50:31+, Ian Hickson wrote: The situation for audio codecs is similar, but less critical as there are more formats. Since audio has a much lower profile than video, I propose to observe the audio feature and see if any common codecs surface, instead of specifically

Re: [whatwg] Codecs for audio and video

2009-06-29 Thread Cameron McCormack
Matthew Gregan: The reason for not selecting a video codec doesn't seem to have much weight when considering Ogg Vorbis as a required audio codec. Apple's submarine patent argument doesn't seem to hold, as many deep-pocketed companies (including Microsoft) have shipped products with Vorbis