Re: [whatwg] The new content model for details breaks rendering in MSIE5-7

2009-10-04 Thread Keryx Web
2009-10-03 21:47, Tab Atkins Jr. skrev: Well, no amount of proof would do so; only a convincing enough argument. I, personally, do not feel thatdt's semantics change betweendl anddetails. Nor do I feel they have different syntax at all -dl anddetails do have slightly different syntaxes,

[whatwg] dialog removal

2009-10-04 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009, Jonas Sicking wrote: Neither dialog nor meter were added because they are expected to be used in great numbers. Both were added to prevent another element from being _mis_used. (Specifically, dialog takes away from the risk of people marking up dialogs as

Re: [whatwg] Feature requests in WebSocket (Was: BWTP for WebSocket transfer protocol)

2009-10-04 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Wellington Fernando de Macedo wrote: Ian, do you intend to add any other features to the first version of WebSocket? If yes, which ones? I was thinking of adding multiplexing, but after discussing this with a variety of people, I'm leaning towards leaving the protocol as

Re: [whatwg] The new content model for details breaks rendering in MSIE5-7

2009-10-04 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Keryx Web webmas...@keryx.se wrote: I am arguing in favor of introducing a new element, which would be the zero cost solution, since details is new anyway. It's not a zero-cost solution, though. It introduces *another* nearly identical heading-type element to

Re: [whatwg] The new content model for details breaks rendering in MSIE5-7

2009-10-04 Thread Dean Edwards
On 04/10/2009 15:51, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: dt only requires extra hacks in two browsers that are on the way out. Given a little bit more time they'll be gone completely, and we can stop worrying about this. I'm sorry but you are really understating the problem here. -dean

Re: [whatwg] The new content model for details breaks rendering in MSIE5-7

2009-10-04 Thread Dean Edwards
On 04/10/2009 18:11, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Dean Edwardsdean.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/10/2009 15:51, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: dtonly requires extra hacks in two browsers that are on the way out. Given a little bit more time they'll be gone completely,

Re: [whatwg] More prohibited characters for unquoted attributes are needed

2009-10-04 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009, Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Geoffrey Sneddon foolist...@googlemail.com wrote: Apparently Hixie had previously said he didn't want to change this as it will become a non-issue over time. I think it does matter due to the security issues it

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 drag and drop feedback

2009-10-04 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Sebastian Markb�ge wrote: No browser has implemented the copy/paste part of the spec. Few parts of the spec are perfectly implemented anywhere today, indeed. That's what it'll take years to get to -- that's where the 2022 estimate comes from, in fact -- I doubt we'll