Re: [whatwg] borders on images inside links

2010-03-02 Thread ddailey
I tend to concur not just with the specific (borders around images in ) but with the broader principle of working hard to preserve simple HTML. It is good to keep in mind that there are novices in the world for whom the concepts of HTML, CSS, script, DOM, semantics, microformats. libraries, etc.

Re: [whatwg] Content encoding (e.g. compression) in Web Sockets

2010-03-02 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, Doug Simpkinson wrote: > > If the headers are optional, is there a reason they can't be added to > the spec in version 1? It's OK if the first implementations ignore it, > but it seems that some implementations have a faster release cycle than > IETF protocol spec updates, s

Re: [whatwg] Content encoding (e.g. compression) in Web Sockets

2010-03-02 Thread Doug Simpkinson
If the headers are optional, is there a reason they can't be added to the spec in version 1? It's OK if the first implementations ignore it, but it seems that some implementations have a faster release cycle than IETF protocol spec updates, so the upside to having it in the spec sooner is huge. I

Re: [whatwg] borders on images inside links

2010-03-02 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Mar 2, 2010, at 12:41, Markus Ernst wrote: > I apologize for the case this is a stupid suggestion: Could the spec say that > the default for HTML5 is no border, but UAs are encouraged to render linked > images in documents with pre-HTML5 or no doctypes with a border? Taking your suggestion l

Re: [whatwg] borders on images inside links

2010-03-02 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Mar 2, 2010, at 2:41 AM, Markus Ernst wrote: Ashley Sheridan schrieb: On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 01:56 -0800, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Mar 2, 2010, at 1:41 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > 2) I do not believe the proposed rule is a good default for either > documents or applications. It lo

Re: [whatwg] borders on images inside links

2010-03-02 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 12:45 +0200, Henri Sivonen wrote: > On Mar 2, 2010, at 12:14, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > > > The majority of browsers render images within links as having a border > > Do you mean the majority of browser installed base (IE's installed base plus > Firefox's)? Of the 5 top br

Re: [whatwg] Parsing processing instructions in HTML syntax: 10.2.4.44 Bogus comment state

2010-03-02 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote: > > The handling of processing instructions in the XHTML syntax seems > reasonably well-defined; but it feels a little off in the HTML syntax. There's no such thing as processing instructions in text/html. There was such a thing in HTML4, because o

Re: [whatwg] borders on images inside links

2010-03-02 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Mar 2, 2010, at 12:14, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > The majority of browsers render images within links as having a border Do you mean the majority of browser installed base (IE's installed base plus Firefox's)? Of the 5 top browsers 3 don't have a border and 2 have. Of the 4 top engines, 2 hav

[whatwg] Parsing processing instructions in HTML syntax: 10.2.4.44 Bogus comment state

2010-03-02 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
The handling of processing instructions in the XHTML syntax seems reasonably well-defined; but it feels a little off in the HTML syntax. Briefly it seems that . Because processing instructions can contain > and terminate only at the two character sequence ?> this could cause PI processing to termin

Re: [whatwg] borders on images inside links

2010-03-02 Thread Markus Ernst
Ashley Sheridan schrieb: On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 01:56 -0800, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Mar 2, 2010, at 1:41 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > 2) I do not believe the proposed rule is a good default for either > documents or applications. It looks ugly. I randomly checked 10 of > the sites I b

Re: [whatwg] borders on images inside links

2010-03-02 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 01:56 -0800, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > On Mar 2, 2010, at 1:41 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > > 2) I do not believe the proposed rule is a good default for either > > documents or applications. It looks ugly. I randomly checked 10 of > > the sites I browse most often

Re: [whatwg] borders on images inside links

2010-03-02 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Mar 2, 2010, at 1:41 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: 2) I do not believe the proposed rule is a good default for either documents or applications. It looks ugly. I randomly checked 10 of the sites I browse most often and I could not find a single one that explicitly added this rule for the

Re: [whatwg] borders on images inside links

2010-03-02 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Mar 1, 2010, at 9:20 PM, L. David Baron wrote: I believe the rendering section should describe a default style rule, present in Gecko and in Internet Explorer (and also in Netscape 4.x and earlier, Mosaic, etc.), that gives borders to images inside links. In Gecko, this is represented as: