Re: [whatwg] Expanding the cite element

2010-05-06 Thread Schalk Neethling
Hi all, I really like this idea, how would this be handled from a presentational point of view? I guess it will be a CSS style issue but, will browsers implement some standard way of displaying these cite elements if it has the uri attribute? Schalk Neethling From:

Re: [whatwg] RFC: input type=username

2010-05-06 Thread Eitan Adler
The way I see it is that instead of browsers traversing the DOM looking for an input field of either id=username or name=username or even class=username, they now only have to look for an input of type username. Makes it a lot easier for both developers and browser vendors as they now only

Re: [whatwg] RFC: input type=username

2010-05-06 Thread Schalk Neethling
Your suggestion sounds really interesting Thomas, I will have a read over it. I agree that if your username field will be in the form of an email address, then simply use type=username with a pattern to facilitate email validation. Not sure if that is really even needed at that point anyway

[whatwg] meta=encrypt tag is needed

2010-05-06 Thread juuso_html5
meta=encrypt pubkey=ABABAEFEF2626EFEFEF pubtool=EC256-AES|RSA2048-AES passsalt=no|domainname auth=verisign Please try to fully decrypt the above meta-encrypt tag and *see* how the browser-server communication could utilize it. (HINT: browser submits a (session specific) 256bit elliptic

Re: [whatwg] RFC: input type=username

2010-05-06 Thread Thomas Broyer
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Mounir Lamouri wrote: On 05/06/2010 12:09 PM, Thomas Broyer wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote: Am 05.05.2010 23:06 schrieb Schalk Neethling: The way I see it is that instead of browsers traversing the DOM looking for

Re: [whatwg] RFC: input type=username

2010-05-06 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 14:54 +0200, Thomas Broyer wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Mounir Lamouri wrote: On 05/06/2010 12:09 PM, Thomas Broyer wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote: Am 05.05.2010 23:06 schrieb Schalk Neethling: The way I see

Re: [whatwg] RFC: input type=username

2010-05-06 Thread Smylers
Schalk Neethling writes: if your username field will be in the form of an email address, then simply use type=username with a pattern to facilitate email validation. Surely a major reason for having standard validation types is so web developers don't need to come up with patterns for these

Re: [whatwg] onshow event

2010-05-06 Thread Perry Smith
On May 6, 2010, at 3:19 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Wed, 05 May 2010 13:47:13 +0900, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 4 May 2010, Perry Smith wrote: It would be wonderful if an element had an event that would fire when that particular element is shown on the page. This might be

Re: [whatwg] RFC: input type=username

2010-05-06 Thread Schalk Neethling
Smylers, I understand what you mean but, then I have to agree with Thomas that you can then use an input of type username and use the pattern to validate the email address. Schalk -Original Message- From: whatwg-boun...@lists.whatwg.org [mailto:whatwg-boun...@lists.whatwg.org] On Behalf

Re: [whatwg] Expanding the cite element

2010-05-06 Thread Edward O'Connor
Is there any value in adding an href or uri or similar attribute to the cite element to indicate a location for a work (or information about the work) or, in the case of a URI, an indicator that can be used as a reference programmatically? cite uri has a much worse fallback story than simply

Re: [whatwg] WebSocket: garbage collection

2010-05-06 Thread Simon Pieters
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:00:36 +0200, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote: [[ WebSocket object with an open connection must not be garbage collected if there are any event listeners registered for message events. ]] Shouldn't it also not be garbage collected if there are listeners for

Re: [whatwg] Keywords for the pattern attribute [was: RFC: input type=username]

2010-05-06 Thread Eitan Adler
input type=text pattern=email input type=username pattern=email What if for some strange reason I wanted to only allow the text e-m-a-i-l ? There would have to be some way to differentiate between a keyword and a normal pattern.

Re: [whatwg] meta=encrypt tag is needed

2010-05-06 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:44 AM, juuso_ht...@tele3d.net wrote: meta=encrypt pubkey=ABABAEFEF2626EFEFEF pubtool=EC256-AES|RSA2048-AES passsalt=no|domainname auth=verisign Please try to fully decrypt the above meta-encrypt tag and *see* how the browser-server communication could utilize it.

Re: [whatwg] meta=encrypt tag is needed

2010-05-06 Thread Schalk Neethling
Might be a wrong assumption but, if you place those values into an HTML element, it is visible by simply doing a view source. I am jumping in the middle of the conversation here but, this strikes me as opening another problem. Schalk -Original Message- From:

Re: [whatwg] meta=encrypt tag is needed

2010-05-06 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:44 AM, juuso_ht...@tele3d.net wrote: meta=encrypt pubkey=ABABAEFEF2626EFEFEF pubtool=EC256-AES|RSA2048-AES passsalt=no|domainname auth=verisign Please try to fully decrypt the above meta-encrypt tag and *see* how the browser-server communication could utilize it.

Re: [whatwg] Type Date

2010-05-06 Thread Schalk Neethling
Just to rectify any misunderstanding, I love the date picker that Opera provides and others will hopefully do in turn but, my question is that currently using type=date only provides the option of selecting a date using the date picker. In a recent talk I gave on HTML 5 the question arose that

Re: [whatwg] Type Date

2010-05-06 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Schalk Neethling sch...@ossreleasefeed.com wrote: Just to rectify any misunderstanding, I love the date picker that Opera provides and others will hopefully do in turn but, my question is that currently using type=date only provides the option of selecting a

Re: [whatwg] Type Date

2010-05-06 Thread TAMURA, Kent
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 06:41, Garrett Smith dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote: Opera has native support that mostly works but failed with dates prior to 1582, last I checked. This seems reasonable. Gregorian calendar started in 1582. -- TAMURA Kent Software Engineer, Google

Re: [whatwg] Type Date

2010-05-06 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, 07 May 2010 10:52:15 +0900, Garrett Smith dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Garrett Smith dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote: Disregard that: Proleptic Gregorian is not required, but optional for ISO 8601. Regardless:- That specification in this case is HTML 5

Re: [whatwg] Type Date

2010-05-06 Thread Garrett Smith
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Fri, 07 May 2010 10:52:15 +0900, Garrett Smith dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Garrett Smith dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote: Disregard that: Proleptic Gregorian is not required, but

Re: [whatwg] RFC: input type=username

2010-05-06 Thread Justin Dolske
On 5/4/10 12:08 AM, Eitan Adler wrote: 3) Currently autofill for usernames looks for something like id=username or name=username. However on certain websites this fails. Furthermore some websites offer a find other members feature where you could type in a username. I've often seen these fields