Re: [whatwg] [html5] r5928 - [acgiow] (0) Drop forminput and formchange events, and their associated machiner [...]

2011-03-04 Thread Simon Pieters
On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 00:22:16 +0100, wha...@whatwg.org wrote: Author: ianh Date: 2011-03-03 15:22:14 -0800 (Thu, 03 Mar 2011) New Revision: 5928 Modified: complete.html index source Log: [acgiow] (0) Drop forminput and formchange events, and their associated machinery, since you can

Re: [whatwg] Redirect handling for audio video

2011-03-04 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:15:58 +0100, Aaron Colwell acolw...@google.com wrote: Hi, I was looking at the resource fetch algorithmhttp://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/video.html#concept-media-load-resourcesection and fetching resources

Re: [whatwg] Multiple globals and direct/indirect eval

2011-03-04 Thread David Bruant
[Adding WhatWG and public-script-coord (WebIDL) to the discussion. Discussion is ongoing : - Start of thread : https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2011-March/012915.html - Strawman by Dave Herman: http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=strawman:multiple_globals )] ---

Re: [whatwg] Multiple globals and direct/indirect eval

2011-03-04 Thread Mark S. Miller
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 5:53 AM, David Bruant bru...@enseirb-matmeca.frwrote: [Adding WhatWG and public-script-coord (WebIDL) to the discussion. Discussion is ongoing : - Start of thread : https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2011-March/012915.html - Strawman by Dave Herman:

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for canvas src to allow images with structured fallback

2011-03-04 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 19:56:54 +0100, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: Thoughts on the problem or the proposed solution presented here? Why not use object? It already works and avoids overloading canvas for

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for separating script downloads and execution

2011-03-04 Thread Nicholas Zakas
Okay, so it sounds like everyone is really much more in favor of an approach that doesn't require execute() to run the code that was preloaded. That seems to narrow the field back down to the two proposals outlined on Kyle's wiki. The question really is, even with that preference, are either of

Re: [whatwg] Multiple globals and direct/indirect eval

2011-03-04 Thread Allen Wirfs-Brock
On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Mark S. Miller wrote: I certainly agree that there needs to be a better interface boundary between w3c/whatwg specs and ECMA specs. Too many issues -- like the semantics of multiple globals -- fall in the gaps between the two organizations. The WebIDL's JS binding

Re: [whatwg] Ongoing work on an editing commands (execCommand()) specification

2011-03-04 Thread Markus Ernst
Am 01.03.2011 19:36 schrieb Aryeh Gregor: Two or three weeks ago I began writing a specification for execCommand() and related functions. I don't have anything implementable yet -- it's very incomplete and there are known issues with the existing stuff. But I thought I'd post it for any early

Re: [whatwg] Ongoing work on an editing commands (execCommand()) specification

2011-03-04 Thread Markus Ernst
Am 03.03.2011 20:53 schrieb Aryeh Gregor: I get the hand-editing argument.b is much nicer to hand-edit than span style=font-weight: bold, and also fewer bytes. But why would anyone wantspan style=font-weight: bold? pbText/b/p is even fewer bytes and more readable than p

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for separating script downloads and execution

2011-03-04 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Nicholas Zakas nza...@yahoo-inc.comwrote: Okay, so it sounds like everyone is really much more in favor of an approach that doesn't require execute() to run the code that was preloaded. I'm not against execute() as such for a synchronous API, I just don't

Re: [whatwg] Ongoing work on an editing commands (execCommand()) specification

2011-03-04 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: Backward compatibility.  I suspect that there are many web contents that depend on styleWithCSS available on WebKit / Gecko. Generally, I've been assuming that sites that already use execCommand() will either 1) not depend on

Re: [whatwg] Improvement of the Application Cache

2011-03-04 Thread Michael Nordman
Yes, it does, in particular the add(), remove(), and enumerate() parts. That spec is in the act of being dropped by the webapps working group. I think if we want to see features along those lines, we should see them in the context of the HTML5 AppCache. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Joseph

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for separating script downloads and execution

2011-03-04 Thread Kyle Simpson
Can someone double-check that onreadystatechange does not actually work for this in IE9 in standards mode? IE9 seems to no longer fire onreadystatechange when the script is not in the document. (onerror is, though, which I think is a spec violation.)

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for separating script downloads and execution

2011-03-04 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Kyle Simpson get...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone double-check that onreadystatechange does not actually work for this in IE9 in standards mode? IE9 seems to no longer fire onreadystatechange when the script is not in the document. (onerror is, though, which I

Re: [whatwg] Ongoing work on an editing commands (execCommand()) specification

2011-03-04 Thread Markus Ernst
Am 04.03.2011 19:58 schrieb Aryeh Gregor: 2) In CSS mode, use CSS where the tag isn't conforming (font, etc.) or there is no tag (like hiliteColor). 3) In non-CSS mode, use tags where available even if not conforming (font, etc.), and only use CSS if there's no tag for the feature (like

Re: [whatwg] Should events be paused on detached iframes?

2011-03-04 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 12/6/10 7:45 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: per spec, currently, if you grab a reference (from another Window) to a document that you then send into session history (bfcache), you can still mutate that document, call dispatchEvent() on it, run scripts

Re: [whatwg] Ongoing work on an editing commands (execCommand()) specification

2011-03-04 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 3:58 AM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: Backward compatibility. I suspect that there are many web contents that depend on styleWithCSS available on WebKit / Gecko. Generally, I've been