Re: [whatwg] Selectors within

2011-07-19 Thread Roland Steiner
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > > On 7/19/11 12:30 AM, Roland Steiner wrote: > >> > >> I think one could argue for either case. Personally, I think it's > >> advantageous to include the scoping element (i.e., use ":

Re: [whatwg] WebVTT feedback (was Re: Video feedback)

2011-07-19 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
Hi Marc, On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Marc 'Tafouk' wrote: > > Hello folks, > > I've been following the latest developments on the WebVTT specification and > am making an attempt to write an out-of-browser parser, using Anna > Cavender's proposed patches to WebKit. Cool! Is this a new video

Re: [whatwg] in

2011-07-19 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 7/19/11 9:12 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: Would other browser vendors be willing to change to only look at in? Gecko used to implement that back when the spec said it. This caused site compat issues. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=593807 (United checkin outside the US being

[whatwg] in

2011-07-19 Thread Ian Hickson
IE7 and up, in both quirks and non-quirks modes, ignores in the of a page. This is intended to protect against a situation where a whitelist-based content filter disallows all scripts but does not disallow , and the page contains a relative URL in a

Re: [whatwg] element in HTML5 Spec?

2011-07-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Richard Summers wrote: > >> > >> I was wondering, is there any plan to implement a element > >> within the HTML5 spec? I�m suggesting this as a complimentary element > >> to

[whatwg] WebVTT feedback (was Re: Video feedback)

2011-07-19 Thread Marc 'Tafouk'
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 at 09:32 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > I wanted to mention that Ronny's page at > http://leanbackplayer.com/other/webvtt.html has had some updates > recently and has now settled, with demos at > http://leanbackplayer.com/test/webvtt.html . > > Note that where his implementatio

Re: [whatwg] Why deflate-stream is required to be enabled by the WebSocket API?

2011-07-19 Thread Jonas Sicking
> I think this requirement doesn't really help us enforce endpoints > initiate/accept WebSocket with the same configuration. Because > > - non-browser UAs are free to be implemented without deflate-stream > - server developers would see/care only the wire protocol spec Given the number of browser

Re: [whatwg] Document's base URI should use the document's *current* address

2011-07-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Justin Lebar wrote: > > The document base URL is used when fetching resources. > > Right now, if a page doesn't have a element, the document base > URL is set to the document's address.  (I'm going to call this the > "document's original address".)  The document's original

Re: [whatwg] Placeholder visibility on focus

2011-07-19 Thread Thomas Maas
On Jul 19, 2011, at 19:12 , Darin Adler wrote: > On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:55 AM, Thomas Maas wrote: > >> instead of checking for an empty string *and* focus the user agent should >> just check for an empty string. > > I think that for some user agents, whether the placeholder text is shown when >

Re: [whatwg] Specification of window.find()

2011-07-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 3 May 2011, Benjamin Poulain wrote: > On 05/03/2011 01:42 AM, ext Ian Hickson wrote: > > > I do not know the original use case but I can think of a few: -on > > > mobile devices which have a find dialog but no user interface to > > > access it, make the find dialog appear > > > > Are the

Re: [whatwg] a rel=attachment

2011-07-19 Thread Alexey Proskuryakov
18.07.2011, в 9:35, Glenn Maynard написал(а): > > A different scenario which I don't think has been discussed in this thread > > is bypassing a hosting service security settings. Consider a highly > > reputable hosting that doesn't let you upload executable files (or maybe > > just scans those

Re: [whatwg] Placeholder visibility on focus

2011-07-19 Thread Darin Adler
On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:55 AM, Thomas Maas wrote: > instead of checking for an empty string *and* focus the user agent should > just check for an empty string. I think that for some user agents, whether the placeholder text is shown when the field is focused should depend on platform behavior. F

Re: [whatwg] Microdata - Handling the case where a string is upgraded to an object

2011-07-19 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:01:37 +0200, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Philip Jägenstedt As for the solution, are you suggesting that .itemValue return a special object which is like HTMLElement in all regards except for how it toString()s? Yes. Currently, it's spe

Re: [whatwg] Selectors within

2011-07-19 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > On 7/19/11 12:30 AM, Roland Steiner wrote: >> >> I think one could argue for either case. Personally, I think it's >> advantageous to include the scoping element (i.e., use ":scope foo .bar, >> foo:scope .bar"), in order to be able to do styl

Re: [whatwg] Selectors within

2011-07-19 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 7/19/11 12:30 AM, Roland Steiner wrote: I think one could argue for either case. Personally, I think it's advantageous to include the scoping element (i.e., use ":scope foo .bar, foo:scope .bar"), in order to be able to do style the scoping element itself rather than its children individually,

[whatwg] Why deflate-stream is required to be enabled by the WebSocket API?

2011-07-19 Thread Takeshi Yoshino
Hi, Use of deflate-stream is now mandatory in API spec. I think this kind of requirement is useless. How about leave it up to implementors' decision? http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12917 Adrian first brought this up on bugzilla for discussion. I'd like to ask opinions from whatwg.

Re: [whatwg] Placeholder visibility on focus

2011-07-19 Thread Thomas Maas
Agreed, instead of checking for an empty string *and* focus the user agent should just check for an empty string. current spec: when the element's value is the empty string and the control is not focused (e.g. by displaying it inside a blank unfocused control) proposed spec: when the element's

[whatwg] Placeholder visibility on focus

2011-07-19 Thread TAMURA, Kent
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/common-input-element-attributes.html#the-placeholder-attribute  User agents should present this hint to the user, after having stripped line breaks from it, when the element's value is the empty string and the control is not focused (e.

Re: [whatwg] The blockquote element spec vs common quoting practices

2011-07-19 Thread Jorrit Vermeiren
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 22:48, Tantek Çelik wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:35, Karl Dubost wrote: >> I like the pattern id/for pattern of forms. We could imagine >> >> >> Sir John Typo >> has written plenty of a wonderful thing >> in Amazing title very similar to those in >> Susan Spellchec

Re: [whatwg] PeerConnection, MediaStream, getUserMedia(), and other feedback

2011-07-19 Thread Per-Erik Brodin
On 2011-07-14 00:39, Ian Hickson wrote: In response to off-list feedback, I've renamed StreamTrack to MediaStreamTrack to be clearer about its relationship to the other interfaces. Perhaps now that there is no longer any relation to tracks on the media elements we could also change Track to so