Re: [whatwg] Device proximity and light events

2012-05-09 Thread Scott González
The original question was "How do you detect if the UA supports each of these sensor?" I don't think we're asking whether you'd get events, but whether you can detect that the UA actually supports the event. I would think the UA should expose support (via onxxx attributes) if the UA and device act

Re: [whatwg] Device proximity and light events

2012-05-09 Thread Doug Turner
That is different -- Hixie can chime in. I think the idea is that if you have and dom event handler, you should also have an on event handler attribute. Its meaning is less defined. I do not think it means that if ondevicemotion exists, that means you will always see device motion events.

Re: [whatwg] Device proximity and light events

2012-05-09 Thread Tran, Dzung D
There is a discussion on the DAP WG, we like the simplicity of the proposal however there is an important feature that is missing which is ability to set the report interval and threshold. Thanks Dzung Tran -Original Message- From: whatwg-boun...@lists.whatwg.org [mailto:whatwg-boun...@

Re: [whatwg] Device proximity and light events

2012-05-09 Thread Scott González
There was a related discussion on the mailing list: http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2010-November/029252.html I also found a message from Hixie to me, related to that thread: "I agree entirely that if an event has a use case, it makes sense for it to have an event handler attri

Re: [whatwg] Device proximity and light events

2012-05-09 Thread Doug Turner
On May 9, 2012, at 3:14 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Doug Turner wrote: >> Where was that discussion? > > This came up at the WebApps F2F and there was general agreement that > if we added new events adding new event handler attributes would make > sense. Was

Re: [whatwg] Device proximity and light events

2012-05-09 Thread Rich Tibbett
Scott González wrote: On Tuesday, May 8, 2012, Doug Turner wrote: You don't. This API doesn't have device detection. Don't assume that onXXX means that the UA supports an event. I thought this was the preferred way to check. I seem to recall a discussion about this and agreement that this

Re: [whatwg] Device proximity and light events

2012-05-09 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Doug Turner wrote: > Where was that discussion? This came up at the WebApps F2F and there was general agreement that if we added new events adding new event handler attributes would make sense. Feature detection of some kind is useful as forcing people to do UA sni

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Add window.getLastError (or modify invocation arguments of window.onerror)

2012-05-09 Thread Simon Pieters
On Wed, 09 May 2012 03:56:29 +0200, James Greene wrote: Full proposal details: https://gist.github.com/3ded0f6e7f0a658b9394 quoting the above (revision https://gist.github.com/3ded0f6e7f0a658b9394/51e980f0474c255738a3b6ecf003bb6cb30db49c ): # Proposal: Add `window.getLastError` (