Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen events dispatched to elements

2012-06-06 Thread Robert O'Callahan
What do you do when element A goes fullscreen and then element B in the same document goes fullscreen on top of it? Do you fire a single fullscreenchange event at B? Or do you fire a fullscreenchange event at A and then at B? Or something else? Rob -- “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your

Re: [whatwg] sources in video by quality as well as codec

2012-06-06 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
I believe right now there are two proposals under discussion that are trying to address the adaptive streaming issues: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/audio/raw-file/tip/streams/StreamProcessing.html and http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/media-source/media-source.html I believe both are still

Re: [whatwg] Various HTML element feedback

2012-06-06 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: That might be realistic, especially there is no significant semantic clarification in sight in general. This raises the question why we could not just return to the original design with some physical markup like i, b, and u

Re: [whatwg] Media queries, viewport dimensions, srcset and picture

2012-06-06 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Florian Rivoal flori...@opera.com wrote: On the other hand, I think that including 600w 400h in there is misguided. I agree. 1) simplyfy srcset to only accept the *x qualifier Is there a good reason to believe that * will be something other than a power of

Re: [whatwg] Media queries, viewport dimensions, srcset and picture

2012-06-06 Thread Markus Ernst
Am 06.06.2012 14:36 schrieb Henri Sivonen: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Florian Rivoalflori...@opera.com wrote: 1) simplyfy srcset to only accept the *x qualifier Is there a good reason to believe that * will be something other than a power of two? That is, could we just optimize the *x

Re: [whatwg] sources in video by quality as well as codec

2012-06-06 Thread Charles Pritchard
On Jun 5, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012, Rodger Combs wrote: I propose that source add a quality, bitrate, or filesize attribute to allow the UA to decide between multiple streams by choosing the maximum quality file that it can download within a

[whatwg] Proposal for Links to Unrelated Browsing Contexts

2012-06-06 Thread Charlie Reis
Hi all-- I've posted a new proposal to the WhatWG wiki to give web sites a way to open a link in an unrelated browsing context. These links would open in a new window with no script connections back to the original site, which is useful for web apps like Gmail that open user-contributed links.

Re: [whatwg] Cut and paste (and related) events' futures

2012-06-06 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012, Chris O'Brien wrote: This is my first post to the mailing list, so please forgive me if the following is inappropriate for the list and let me know where I should direct this instead (h...@whatwg.org? http://h...@whatwg.org/?). In all the last-released versions of the

Re: [whatwg] beforepopstate event?

2012-06-06 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012, Thomas Broyer wrote: A common use case for beforeunload is to prompt the user before leaving when it has unsaved changes. For instance, you edited a mail draft, updated the phone number of a contact, or filled any kind of form, but you didn't save your changes; when

Re: [whatwg] HTMLLinkElement.disabled and HTMLLinkElement.sheet behavior

2012-06-06 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 1/27/12 1:30 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Wed, 5 Oct 2011, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Boris Zbarskybzbar...@mit.edu wrote: What Firefox does do is block execution ofscript tags (but not timeouts, callbacks, etc!)

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Offline-Capable Meta Tag and API Indicates Application's Ability to Function Without Network Connection

2012-06-06 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012, Brian Blakely wrote: On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 27 Jan 2012, Brian Blakely wrote: What kind of app are you considering that needs 700MB at once? I'm considering videogames that the user would like to play offline

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for Links to Unrelated Browsing Contexts

2012-06-06 Thread Michal Zalewski
Several questions: 1) How would this mechanism work with named windows (which may be targeted by means other than accessing opener.*)? In certain implementations (e.g., Chrome), the separation in this namespace comes free, but that's not given for other browsers. There are ways in which the

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for Links to Unrelated Browsing Contexts

2012-06-06 Thread Charlie Reis
I'm hoping to bypass all of those by overriding any specification of target in the link. That is, if rel=unrelated is specified, that forces target to be _blank. Charlie On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Michal Zalewski lcam...@coredump.cx wrote: Several questions: 1) How would this mechanism

Re: [whatwg] tabindexscope

2012-06-06 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Ojan Vafai wrote: We keep running into the use case where the physical position matters for the tab order. The problem with just setting tabIndex (or CSS3

Re: [whatwg] HTMLLinkElement.disabled and HTMLLinkElement.sheet behavior

2012-06-06 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 6/6/12 7:47 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 27 Jan 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 1/27/12 1:30 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Wed, 5 Oct 2011, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Boris Zbarskybzbar...@mit.edu wrote: What Firefox does do is block execution ofscript tags (but

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for Links to Unrelated Browsing Contexts

2012-06-06 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Charlie Reis cr...@chromium.org wrote: I'm hoping to bypass all of those by overriding any specification of target in the link. That is, if rel=unrelated is specified, that forces target to be _blank. Please don't encourage yet more sites to open new tabs

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for Links to Unrelated Browsing Contexts

2012-06-06 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 07:32:34PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: Please don't encourage yet more sites to open new tabs when I didn't ask for it. It's merely a new browsing context IIUC, not necessarily a new window (frame, tab, tile or whatever it's called this year). Someone that understands

Re: [whatwg] Media queries, viewport dimensions, srcset and picture

2012-06-06 Thread Mark Callow
On 06/06/2012 21:36, Henri Sivonen wrote: More to the point, the important characteristic is being able to stop downloading *quarter* way through the file and get results that are as good as if the full-size file had been down sampled with both dimensions halved and that size had been sent

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for Links to Unrelated Browsing Contexts

2012-06-06 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius svartma...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 07:32:34PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: Please don't encourage yet more sites to open new tabs when I didn't ask for it. It's merely a new browsing context IIUC, not necessarily a new window

Re: [whatwg] video element not ready for prime time

2012-06-06 Thread Kit Grose
On 06/06/2012, at 7:44 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 13 Jan 2012, Kit Grose wrote: I'd argue that while we did receive in WebM a common codec it does not enjoy the sort of universal adoption required to be able to mandate its support in the spec, so on that logic, I think establishing a

Re: [whatwg] video element not ready for prime time

2012-06-06 Thread Chris Double
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Francis Boumphrey boumphre...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly if I use a video with the src attribute e.g. video src='myvideo.mp4' controls and my user agent does not support the format, all I get (in my versions of Opera and Firefox) is a blank screen. Recent