Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-15 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2012-07-16 5:36, Ian Yang wrote: Imo, means the order of the items is unimportant, not browsers can render the items in any order. But if the order is unimportant, there still _is_ an order. Being unordered would be something else. And what would it matter to indicate the order as important

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-15 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 14 Jul 2012, Ian Yang wrote: > > Recently I was involved in a project. One of its pages has a special > content which is like a "life cycle". There are several stages in the > cycle, each stage has a term followed by some text describing the term. > Let's take the life cycle of butterfl

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-15 Thread Ian Yang
2012/7/16 Leif H Silli > Sat, 14 Jul 2012 23:53:32 +0800, from Ian Yang > >> Okay, it seems that one of the ideas I mentioned in my original email >> needs to be revamped. >> > >> I was saying that using general heading () and paragraph () loses >> the meaning of "definition term" and "definition

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-15 Thread Ian Yang
2012/7/16 Jukka K. Korpela > 2012-07-15 17:40, Ian Yang wrote: > > Throughout the article, I saw it mentioned "bullets" and "numbers" > > frequently. However, that's just browsers' default rendering of and > > . > > It's the only real difference between the two. Sorry, I still don't get it. m

Re: [whatwg] Security restriction allows content thievery

2012-07-15 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Robert Eisele wrote: > 2012/7/16 Tab Atkins Jr. > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Robert Eisele wrote: > > > Browsers are very restrictive when one tries to access the contents of > > > different domains (including the scheme), embedded via framesets. This >

Re: [whatwg] Security restriction allows content thievery

2012-07-15 Thread Robert Eisele
2012/7/16 Tab Atkins Jr. > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Robert Eisele wrote: > > Browsers are very restrictive when one tries to access the contents of > > different domains (including the scheme), embedded via framesets. This is > > normally a good practice, but I'd suggest to weaken this r

Re: [whatwg] Security restriction allows content thievery

2012-07-15 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Robert Eisele wrote: > Browsers are very restrictive when one tries to access the contents of > different domains (including the scheme), embedded via framesets. This is > normally a good practice, but I'd suggest to weaken this restriction for > the data: URI sche

[whatwg] Security restriction allows content thievery

2012-07-15 Thread Robert Eisele
Browsers are very restrictive when one tries to access the contents of different domains (including the scheme), embedded via framesets. This is normally a good practice, but I'd suggest to weaken this restriction for the data: URI schema. I'm currently building an analysis system like Google Anal

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-15 Thread Leif H Silli
Sat, 14 Jul 2012 23:53:32 +0800, from Ian Yang Okay, it seems that one of the ideas I mentioned in my original email needs to be revamped. I was saying that using general heading () and paragraph () loses the meaning of "definition term" and "definition description", but I didn't realize t

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-15 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2012-07-15 17:40, Ian Yang wrote: > Throughout the article, I saw it mentioned "bullets" and "numbers" > frequently. However, that's just browsers' default rendering of and > . It's the only real difference between the two. > As a coder, personally I don't care how browsers render them by > de

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-15 Thread Ian Yang
2012/7/15 Jukka K. Korpela > 2012-07-14 18:51, Ian Yang wrote: > > If is no more and no less ordered than , >> what's the purpose of its introduction? >> > > The real purposes, in the dawn of HTML, were that and correspond > to numbered and bulleted lists, respectively, reflecting two very co