Re: [whatwg] A plea to Hixie to adopt

2012-11-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Nov 2012, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > > > > > > > > But we already have this. The main content is whatever content > > > > isn't marked up as not being main content (anything not marked

Re: [whatwg] markup problems

2012-11-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > > The current HTML markup has a few issues where it does not > properly solve the relevant use-cases. In this email I'll outline these > problems, and suggest some simple fixes that maintain the overall > simplicity of the ruby model. Thanks. My m

Re: [whatwg] A plea to Hixie to adopt

2012-11-27 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > On Wed, 28 Nov 2012, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > > > > > > But we already have this. The main content is whatever content isn't > > > marked up as not being main content (anything not marked up with > > > , , , etc). > > > > I tried to validate

[whatwg] Menus and Toolbars

2012-11-27 Thread Ian Hickson
(If you're cc'ed, your opinion likely affects implementations of this and so your input is especially requested. See the question at the end. If you reply to this, please strip the cc list as the mailing list software will otherwise block your post for having too many cc's. Thanks.) There's a

Re: [whatwg] A plea to Hixie to adopt

2012-11-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > > > > But we already have this. The main content is whatever content isn't > > marked up as not being main content (anything not marked up with > > , , , etc). > > I tried to validate that claim. It's not really possible with today's > Web pages, si

Re: [whatwg] [mimesniff] Handling container formats like Ogg

2012-11-27 Thread Ralph Giles
On 12-11-27 9:19 AM, Gordon P. Hemsley wrote: > Is it sufficient to sniff just for "application/ogg" and then let the > UA's Ogg library determine whether or not the contents of the file can > be handled? (I'm sensing the consensus is yes.) I think so. Defining a codec enumerating algorithm and

Re: [whatwg] A plea to Hixie to adopt

2012-11-27 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: [..] > > On Sat, 10 Nov 2012, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > > > I personally think would be useful. I don't think it has a huge > > benefit, but it has modest benefits, like , , > > and . I also think the implementation costs are low. The > >

Re: [whatwg] metadata attribute for media

2012-11-27 Thread Ralph Giles
On 12-11-26 4:18 PM, Ralph Giles wrote: > interface HTMLMediaElement { > ... > object getMetadata(); > }; > > After the metadataloaded event fires, this method would return a new > object containing a copy of the metadata read from the resource, in > whatever format the decoder implementation

Re: [whatwg] Support of link rel=prefetch

2012-11-27 Thread Adam Barth
I consider it not working on Chrome for Android a bug. It's something we'd like to fix. Adam On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Laurent Perez wrote: > Hi > > I'm testing the prefetch attribute of tags described at > http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/links.html#link-ty

Re: [whatwg] [mimesniff] Audio and video sniffing

2012-11-27 Thread Gordon P. Hemsley
Done: https://github.com/whatwg/mimesniff/commit/77ee676c8852f4e76facd7d6c1174ac0ec41696e Note that this also affects the "media type sniffing algorithm" and the "rules for identifying an unknown media type". On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Simon Pieters wrote: > On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:38:02

Re: [whatwg] [mimesniff] Handling container formats like Ogg

2012-11-27 Thread Gordon P. Hemsley
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:39 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Gordon P. Hemsley > wrote: >> Would this be something UAs would prefer to handle in their Ogg >> library, or should I spec it as part of sniffing? > > What would be the use case for handling it as part of s

Re: [whatwg] 'datetime-local' and 'datetime' comments

2012-11-27 Thread Nicolas Froidure
On 27/11/2012 09:39, Mikko Rantalainen wrote: Nicolas Froidure, 2012-11-13 12:51 (Europe/Helsinki): In my opinion, it's normal that datetime and datetime-local have timezone and date/time don't. A date is timezone independant and time is more a duration then a time relative to a particular i

Re: [whatwg] [mimesniff] Handling container formats like Ogg

2012-11-27 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Gordon P. Hemsley wrote: > Container formats like Ogg can be used to store many different audio > and video formats, all of which can be identified generically as > "application/ogg". Determining which individual format to use (which > can be identified interchang

Re: [whatwg] 'datetime-local' and 'datetime' comments

2012-11-27 Thread Mikko Rantalainen
Mikko Rantalainen, 2012-11-27 10:18 (Europe/Helsinki): > (3) Timezones are subject to future political decisions If you think this is a real problem, see http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/ for examples. Current examples from the top of the page: 26-Oct-2012 Russia remains on summer time after

Re: [whatwg] Fw: Feature Request: Media Elements as Targets for Links

2012-11-27 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Nils Dagsson Moskopp < n...@dieweltistgarnichtso.net> wrote: > > Maybe I am misunderstanding you here, but I think the fragment > identifier abuse by JavaScript authors can be of use here – it would > allow for a simple polyfill that could quickly propagate use an

Re: [whatwg] [mimesniff] Handling container formats like Ogg

2012-11-27 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
For Ogg, if you rely on the Ogg files having a Skeleton track [1], it's not actually difficult at all, since the mime type of the codecs used in the tracks that Skeleton is describing are explicitly included in Skeleton. Then all you have to do is check which codec mime types are present to make t

Re: [whatwg] 'datetime-local' and 'datetime' comments

2012-11-27 Thread Mikko Rantalainen
Nicolas Froidure, 2012-11-13 12:51 (Europe/Helsinki): > In my opinion, it's normal that datetime and datetime-local have > timezone and date/time don't. A date is timezone independant and time is > more a duration then a time relative to a particular instant of a > particular day. Unfortunately, "

Re: [whatwg] 'datetime-local' and 'datetime' comments

2012-11-27 Thread Mikko Rantalainen
Ian Hickson, 2012-11-22 07:15 (Europe/Helsinki): > On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Mounir Lamouri wrote: >> Then, maybe a better naming could be "datetime-utc"? > > I think that would mislead authors into thinking that the UI that users > will see is one that asks for a UTC time. That kind of UI is the wors