Re: [whatwg] HTML differences from HTML4 document updated

2013-05-07 Thread Simon Pieters
On Tue, 07 May 2013 05:49:39 +0200, Jens O. Meiert j...@meiert.com wrote: This document doesn't have versions (anymore). Is the length of that section a problem? Yes. It’s probably a lesser important part of the document but it appears to take up about half of the space (or blows the

Re: [whatwg] HTML differences from HTML4 document updated

2013-05-07 Thread Simon Pieters
On Mon, 06 May 2013 16:50:03 +0200, Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi wrote: I don't think this is of particular importance. If it isn't, why not use the correct spelling? Mostly to be consistent with HTML5. When referring to specifications, it is usually a good idea to use their own

Re: [whatwg] HTML differences from HTML4 document updated

2013-05-07 Thread Kang-Hao (Kenny) Lu
(13/05/07 17:00), Simon Pieters wrote: Since WHATWG does not use a proper name for its version (the title is just HTML), I think the only way to refer to it properly is to prefix it with WHATWG. This would lead to the title Differences of HTML5 and WHATWG HTML from HTML 4.01 Here HTML5 is

Re: [whatwg] HTML differences from HTML4 document updated

2013-05-07 Thread Simon Pieters
On Tue, 07 May 2013 11:52:46 +0200, Kang-Hao (Kenny) Lu kangh...@oupeng.com wrote: Differences of HTML5 and WHATWG HTML from HTML 4.01 Here HTML5 is supposed to refer to W3C HTML5 and W3C HTML5.1? Seems so. Is there a concern here? Well, HTML5 could refer to just HTML5... How about I

Re: [whatwg] HTML differences from HTML4 document updated

2013-05-07 Thread Gordon P. Hemsley
Simon, I think it would be good to consider the target audiences, of which there are probably many: You have the audience who is worried that HTML5 is some grand departure from the HTML 4.01 they (think they) know and love. For them, you'll want to describe what exactly has been removed and why,

Re: [whatwg] Priority between a download and content-disposition

2013-05-07 Thread Gordon P. Hemsley
I realize this is an old thread, so apologies if this has already been resolved. The discussion that originally followed seemed to have gotten off track, so I wanted to try to clarify things. First off, there are two factors to consider: (1) Whether to download the file or display it. (2) What

Re: [whatwg] API to delay the document load event (continued)

2013-05-07 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* James Burke wrote: I just joined the mailing list, so I apologize for not continuing the existing thread started here: http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2013-April/039422.html Disclaimer: I submitted the Mozilla Bugzilla ticket for some kind of capability in this area.

Re: [whatwg] HTML differences from HTML4 document updated

2013-05-07 Thread Jens O. Meiert
I understand the amount of space it takes. I still don't understand what the problem is. Is it that people look at the scrollbar and think oh wow this document is too long, I'm not gonna bother reading it at all.? Or something else? That is one scenario which could have an effect on how many

Re: [whatwg] Priority between a download and content-disposition

2013-05-07 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 5/7/13 5:54 PM, Gordon P. Hemsley wrote: A @download attribute with a value would override both factors, like so: (1) Download it. (2) A.txt Why? You say this as if it were obvious, but it's not obvious to me at all... What's the reasoning that makes this the desirable behavior? I